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Chris_Owens

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Hi,
we've bought a Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel engine to restore. It is similar to a 3 cylinder that I restored decades ago to run the flood lifter pump on our outback station but I don't know if this one is an early JP, a CS or some other model - a few people have said it's a JP4 but there appear to be enough differences to make us unsure.

There is a brass plaque that says 40hp and 1100rpm with the number 4693843. That number is also stamped on the flywheel. The decompression levers are on top of the rocker covers. It is radiator cooled with a head mounted water pump, belt driven, with two delivery ports. Also, rockers are lubricated by a greasing system, not oil (oil is not fed to the overhead rocker covers).

The main ID plate has been removed, and the usual identifying marks that people say to look for are not apparent.

I've tried to attach photos by adding the Photobucket URL between the 'img' brackets, trying other options with Pb, as well as trying the 'attach' option below, but nothing is coming up when I check the preview. The best I can offer at present is a link to a Facebook album of pre-restoration photos on a public view setting:   https://www.facebook.com/leanne.owens.10/media_set?set=a.1775840762428677.1073741956.100000083126724&type=3&uploaded=7

I'll put a YouTube link to the first time we started it - I hope the link works. Please excuse the level of Aussie excitement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWFQZLb4Ws&t=106s

If anyone is able to identify it, your help would be appreciated. Most say it's probably a JP4, some say a CS4, others claim a different model. For ordering parts, I really need to know. Thanks!



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Re: Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel - can you identify the model?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2017, 01:13:00 AM »
Seems an attachment did come up, even though it didn't show in the preview, so I'll try another one, but most of the files are too large. They're just the same photos as in that Facebook album, if that's easier to follow.

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Re: Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel - can you identify the model?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2017, 01:25:15 AM »
dunno what it is, Chris.  Not a CS.  Someone here will know all about it.  But I love the noise-and-smoke-and-excitement video :)

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Re: Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel - can you identify the model?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2017, 10:04:06 AM »
It looks a lot like a JP4, but as you said, those decompression levers are in the wrong place for a JP - it should have buttons down the side and a shaft to flick them all in at the same time. One possible explanation could be that it's a very early model?

I'd recommend trying the lads out at http://www.stationary-engine.net/forum; someone there should recognise the style of decompression lever at least.
Cheers!
Ade.
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1x Lister CS Start-o-Matic (complete, runs)
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Re: Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel - can you identify the model?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 11:24:45 AM »
Thank you. I've asked to join that forum and am just waiting for a confirmation email. In a few other places, some thought it was an early JP4 as they thought the compression levers were on top for the early ones. In the JP4 manual that I have, though, there is a slightly different configuration of the water pump, as well as some other minor changes, but I imagine that the design could have evolved from its early years.

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Re: Lister 4 cylinder water cooled diesel - can you identify the model?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 01:27:09 PM »
JP4 for sure. Not all had the lower decompression buttons and levers. Don't need them, you have levers on the valve covers. I had a two cylinder the same as that.

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Owned; Lister ST1, ST2, JP4, LD1 & 2x Blackstone ERS8. Petter AA1, AC2 and still up for it !!!