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Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« on: October 08, 2016, 02:09:00 AM »
Its been one week today, i made a 24 hour round trip to pick up the ole girl from a nice gentleman in Canada.  Its a 2xhr single flywheel with all the air start components including factory air tank. The engine was imported to Montreal in 1945 and installed in a college in the engineering department. By the look of the bearing and journal wear it safe to say it was hardly ever ran. The flywheel is massive at 50.5 inches in diameter by 4.5 wide. The main issue I have had with the single flywheel outer suppory bearing design is building a sufficient cart for it. I bought the engine to show, English built diesels seem to be far and few between at the shows i go too. I will be posting pictures soon i still don't have this smart phone figured out.






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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 02:59:40 AM »
As of today the base has about 40 ft of 5x5x.250 wall tubing at 15.62lb per foot so it weighs 625lbs or so.

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 03:40:36 AM »
Looks to be a heck of a nice project! What a beauty! And I love your fabrication work!

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 06:54:03 AM »

Now THAT'S an engine!!

And one hell of a mounting as well!
There are a few of these engines running in a permanent situation at the local Vintage Machinery club.  Nicely set up in a Colourbond shed on a concrete Floor which vibrated nicely under ones feet.  They run all 3 at onc and even though I have gone and watched them half a dozen times before, I go mark to marvel at them every time I visit there.  Show is on again next weekend so if I get there I'll be back to watch again.

Are you going to drive anything with this? I like to see them run but I like to see them doing something even better. :0)

Thanks for showing this. Really interesting to see and admire your significant skills in building the mounting for this.

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM »
I have been putting some serious thought in the support bearing side mount and how to design it so i can properly set that bearing,  i wasn't happy using a shim pack because that only gives you up and down adjustment and the increments to large for how close 8 believe it needs to be set.  So i came up with the concept of 4 large set screws and 2 lockdown bolts. I will post a picture once the hardware comes in. The next mental hurdle was how the establish the correct outer bearing height so that all 3 bearings have even load, it was evident this engine wasn't setup correct from new because the flywheel side crank bearing had slight signs of or being overloaded and the other looked new. So between dad and i standing around and some chin scratching we finally came up with a method that we believe is correct. Using 3 drop indicators one on each crank main journal at tdc and one out past the support bearing on the shaft. When the support bearing is raised to far the indicator on the crank journal flywheel side will start to lift, zero the support bearing indicator at that point. Then lower the support bearing in till the side shaft side crank indicator shows lift, note the amount off of zero on the support side indicator  and set bearing height in the middle. Seem ok?

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2016, 06:18:43 PM »
Thanks for a great morning.

I always rejoice when I see a wonderful museum piece like this one find the right home.

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 01:09:26 AM »
  To answer you question about what i plan on running with it i haven't figured that out yet. I have however decided that i am going to dedicate the cs 6/1 to a air compressor setup to charge the tank for air starting the ruston. If you make it see the stationary engines you referenced please snap some pictures i would love to see them.


Now THAT'S an engine!!

And one hell of a mounting as well!
There are a few of these engines running in a permanent situation at the local Vintage Machinery club.  Nicely set up in a Colourbond shed on a concrete Floor which vibrated nicely under ones feet.  They run all 3 at onc and even though I have gone and watched them half a dozen times before, I go mark to marvel at them every time I visit there.  Show is on again next weekend so if I get there I'll be back to watch again.

Are you going to drive anything with this? I like to see them run but I like to see them doing something even better. :0)

Thanks for showing this. Really interesting to see and admire your significant skills in building the mounting for this.

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 03:46:55 AM »

If there is anything specific you'd like to see, let me know so I can shoot it for you. The engines are located in a shed and Barricated off but if there is some detail you are interested in I'm sure I could talk the owner round to letting me take some pics of it. We are all engine guys after all.


I had a quick Dig through the archives and found these couple of vids I did a while back.  Don't know if they have uploaded right, My premium internet is garbage thanks to the greedy mongerals oversubscribing the Node about 10X but the engine looks similar to yours. They all look similar to my untrained eye but anyway. Hopefully it's the right type.
You can see on the end engine the owner has set up a smaller Lister size engine on a compressor and has an air tank for starting.

The Vid can be found at  dare2bedifferent.com.au/engine/

I have a lot of vids from the shows. I wonder if doing a YT channel on them would be worthwhile?

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 05:17:38 AM »
I, for one, would be happy to view those vids! Always entertaining and educational.

Thanks for all your input!

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2016, 06:28:30 AM »


Now you got me thinking.....
I don't go to many shows these days, haven't been to this one coming up in 2 years due to lack of motivation to go out anywhere much these days. Content probably wouldn't be enough for a channel on it's own  but a mate suggested I do one showing my engine and DIY generator setups as well as solar experiments.

I could take my pile of gear and do the vids properly instead of just for my own amusement. Instead of just the engines running, I would write a cue card for the owners and do an interview with them. Have them describe the make and model, year, how long they have owned it and interesting facts and history on the things. That might be a bit more worth watching than just the things run.
Would be something professional I  could put in with all the rest of the rubbish of my own content.

My burner channel does well for comedy value of me making an arse of myself but not sure if there is enough interest in this other stuff.  You can do well if you are a teenager and do Vids of brain numbing game vids or are a girl talking about kissing or that time of the month but all the stuff I see on practical things seem to have very low View rates no matter how well done or interesting.

Spose I could always give it a go, nothing to loose. 
Except about 5L of sweat lugging all that video gear around a show all day and tearing myself a bigger bald spot editing the footage.    ::)

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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 01:34:45 PM »
Jake, the way that outboard bearing was set back in the day was by placing an indicator between the crank throws near the main bearing center line. You are measuring the distance between them.   Then the  crankshaft is then rotated and the bearing moved to correct any noted deflection.  While it can be done with an inside mic (and a lot of patience)  or a magnetic base indicator the prim and proper tool shows up on Ebay UK every so often. I thought about buying one just for giggles.
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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 07:45:26 PM »
I got the open ends capped up and started to set the cooling tank.



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Re: Ruston 2xhr single flywheel Project underway
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2017, 05:25:29 AM »
Now that's an Engine!
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