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another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« on: April 29, 2011, 11:50:48 PM »
Today, 4/29/11, was the big day.  I started up my 6/1 Jkson/Powersolutions.  I have a little oil leak on the pipe that connects to the elbow for the oil pickup screen but other than that everything seems good.  I bought this engine in Feb 2011 from a guy who bought it originally in 2005.  He bought it but never ran it.  He had taken things apart a little here and there.  It was a deal too good to pass up. 

What did I do with it before starting it?  I tore it down completely and removed a fair amount of casting sand from the webs inside the crankcase then bead blasted the piston to remove casting sand from the underside of the piston.  I had to put in new connecting rod bearings due to fod then use plastigage to verify clearances.  I painted both the inside and outside of everything.  I had to make an offset idler bolt and got the lash down to .0045" on the cam gear.  I had to hone down the glazed cylinder due to the sand used in the Indian break in :-).  I put in new sleeve o-rings.  Some of the oil seals were bashed in so I put new ones in when I put in new gaskets for everything. 

Anyhow, I made two videos of it, the first and second starts and I have a lot of photos on listerenginegallery. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-saUYb8IxxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9WruyjF7k
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

I have an ST10 that I will run with the 6/1 and also my 12hp yanclone tractor.

Anyhow, I just wanted to let folks know another one came to life on this fine Spring day.

There are still some gems hidden out there that can still be had.  I had to travel several states away to get it but I was already going near there to go skiing. 




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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 12:31:32 AM »
Great Job.  Congratulations.

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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 02:40:57 PM »
Lucky bugger!!! That is SMOOOOOTH....
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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 02:50:06 PM »
Thanks guys, I was a bit lucky on that engine.  I had placed a want ad on craigslist and the owner contacted me and I couldn't pass it up.  The parts I got seemed pretty good once I went through everything.  The balance was luck of the draw like all things Listeroid.
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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 04:02:35 PM »
The parts I got seemed pretty good once I went through everything.  The balance was luck of the draw like all things Listeroid.

Very smooth.....I have spent many an hour grtting one to run that smooth! I would normaly say you are crazy to start on not being tied down but once in awile we get lucky! You would not believe what an animal they are if not a smooth runner.
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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 07:55:30 PM »
Congrats bearhawk.

I've got 2- PS 6/1's in kit form I bought back in late 2008. Still in crates.

Probably a few buy generations for Joel in Portland than your engine. I was told they were much improved by spec order by then.

Have not had time to get them going yet, but need to soon.  Anyone have any experience with the later (last) PS listers that came out of Portland?

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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 03:06:22 AM »
nice job

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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 05:27:42 PM »
Today, 4/29/11, was the big day.  I started up my 6/1 Jkson/Powersolutions.  I have a little oil leak on the pipe that connects to the elbow for the oil pickup screen but other than that everything seems good.  I bought this engine in Feb 2011 from a guy who bought it originally in 2005.  He bought it but never ran it.  He had taken things apart a little here and there.  It was a deal too good to pass up. 

What did I do with it before starting it?  I tore it down completely and removed a fair amount of casting sand from the webs inside the crankcase then bead blasted the piston to remove casting sand from the underside of the piston.  I had to put in new connecting rod bearings due to fod then use plastigage to verify clearances.  I painted both the inside and outside of everything.  I had to make an offset idler bolt and got the lash down to .0045" on the cam gear.  I had to hone down the glazed cylinder due to the sand used in the Indian break in :-).  I put in new sleeve o-rings.  Some of the oil seals were bashed in so I put new ones in when I put in new gaskets for everything. 

Anyhow, I made two videos of it, the first and second starts and I have a lot of photos on listerenginegallery. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-saUYb8IxxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9WruyjF7k
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

I have an ST10 that I will run with the 6/1 and also my 12hp yanclone tractor.

Anyhow, I just wanted to let folks know another one came to life on this fine Spring day.

There are still some gems hidden out there that can still be had.  I had to travel several states away to get it but I was already going near there to go skiing. 






Sir ,
 Good And Amazing Effort  .Could You Teach Me About The Following  ...

"Big end rod bearing has .003" clearance without shims. " - > How Do you Check This
" .0045" of backlash on the camgear using the .040" offset idler bolt. " - > Whats The Meaning Of Blackslash and How Do You Measure All Of This  .

PS : I am not that professional but i have also tried some experiment  www.indianlisteroid.com
       
Regards

Amarbir Singh Dhillon [ www.indianlisteroid.com ]
Indian Listers - Research ,Repair And Spares

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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 02:14:19 AM »
Sir ,
 Good And Amazing Effort  .Could You Teach Me About The Following  ...

"Big end rod bearing has .003" clearance without shims. " - > How Do you Check This
" .0045" of backlash on the camgear using the .040" offset idler bolt. " - > Whats The Meaning Of Blackslash and How Do You Measure All Of This  .

Hi Amarbir,
The easiest way to find the clearance with plain bearings is using a product called plastigage.  You can see my .003" clearance here http://mbryner.fatcow.com/listerenginegallery/main.php/main.php?g2_itemId=5133&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Backlash is how much you can move the idler gear without moving anything else.  You can see my measurement of mine .0045" backlash measurement here http://mbryner.fatcow.com/listerenginegallery
/main.php/main.php?g2_itemId=5469&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

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Re: another new 6/1 gets fired up for the first time since India
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 07:47:47 AM »
Well done

I will have a peek at your U tube stuff at the library .... my net connection is very slow at home  ???

Does your Jkson 6/1 have the counter weights fitted on the crankshaft ?

I am an absolute beginner - this forum has many hours of reading and learning  ;D

The camshaft idle gear problem in these engines  ,  sounds a little worrying . I am a hobby machinist and I have made a few gears from cast iron , I have a Mill  and a dividing head setup . I recently bought an old Cincinatti No.2 tool grinder , its a heavy lump of a thing  :-\  too many toys in the shed  :laugh:  Mike
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