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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #300 on: January 31, 2010, 10:03:13 PM »

Hey look Steven in his office caught on film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJOuoyoMhj8

Dictatorship is nothing to make light off.  All the Three Amigos have to do to stop PM Harper is vote non-confidence and appeal to the GG to let Iffy form a govt. or put it to the people to see if we feel like you... but that has not happened,  That means the PM in a minority Govt cannot be a Dictator unlike PM Chrietian or Trudeau who held majorities and could do as they please... can you explain how this is better than what we have today? (National Energy Plan, Constitutional Repat without Quebec, National Long Gun Registry, Wage and Price Controls)  just some of the draconian measures used by the Liberals... oh yeah the War Measures Act for a Kidnapping.... compared to what??

And yes the winters get long here, and politics and Hockey are what Canadians talk about :D
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #301 on: January 31, 2010, 10:04:38 PM »
The difference now of course Andrew is that Stephen Harper doesn't have a majority in Parliament.  That means that far less than half the people in the country want him there.  

He has been fudging things for the last 3 years, combining bills when something was important and had to be passed with a lot of crap bills to do nothing more than line the pockets of the big businesses that supported him with bribes (campaign contributions).

Don't think that the word bribe is unacceptable because the last conservative prime minister admitted accepting $250,000 in cash,  in a brown paper envelope from a representative of big business only 3 days after he stepped down as prime minister.  AND HE'S STILL NOT IN JAIL.

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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #302 on: January 31, 2010, 11:11:22 PM »
Your right Harper is not a dictator, but he is a dick.....

I am tired of this, no flexability this thread is as hamstrung as everything else.
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #303 on: January 31, 2010, 11:22:41 PM »
i keep telling everyone that wants to help establish Bobistan, that we will view waterboarding as an olympic sport!

you wanna be a terrorist on board bobistanairlines, fine!  expect all passengers to be armed with billy clubs and knives
and when the passengers have had their way with you the pilot will descend to 10k feet and at which time your carcass
will be pitched overboard.

there will be no trial, same rules will apply as there are with a captain of a ship in open sea's, if he chooses to make you walk
the wing in lieu of a plank, so be it!

keel hauling might be problematic though, have to think about that for a while,, hmmmm

nope, just club em and pitch em out!

he who has the pair of ears of the terrorist will get a new set of tickets anywhere bobistanairlines or any of its travel partners as well.

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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #304 on: January 31, 2010, 11:50:17 PM »
The difference now of course Andrew is that Stephen Harper doesn't have a majority in Parliament.  That means that far less than half the people in the country want him there.  

He has been fudging things for the last 3 years, combining bills when something was important and had to be passed with a lot of crap bills to do nothing more than line the pockets of the big businesses that supported him with bribes (campaign contributions).

Don't think that the word bribe is unacceptable because the last conservative prime minister admitted accepting $250,000 in cash,  in a brown paper envelope from a representative of big business only 3 days after he stepped down as prime minister.  AND HE'S STILL NOT IN JAIL.

Stan

Stan, the fact he does not hold a majority should be a good thing to people of your ilk, so acting like a dictator is OK with a majority, and governing with a minority is bad?

Stan, thats how a Parliamentary govt works, ask our Republican brothers and sisters about add on to bills before you want to tear our house down

And this is the second time you have made unfounded acusations of criminal wrongdoing with nothing to show for it, I can understand your support of Climate change now... its not the facts that matter, just perception.

And the Liberal PM that followed him WHILE IN OFFICE had the government invest in HIS golf Course, which he then sold at a profit, had the RCMP build a road to his private cottage, and of course had people in his party and working for him go to jail over bogus advertising... WHILE IN OFFICE.  At least Mulrooney waited till after leaving office before finding other sources of work, and after millions of dollars spent by the Liberals, paid him $1 Million in appology money and never found a smoking gun of wrong doing.

So Stan, in short you like the Liberals because they get caught breaking the, and you hate the Conservatives because they have not been caught, which means the police are stupid when it comes to the Conservatives or the Conservatives are law abiding and that pisses you off? 

Wow I knew the West Coast had strange ideas.  So who is your hero??  Taliban Jack or Iffy?
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #305 on: January 31, 2010, 11:52:02 PM »
Your right Harper is not a dictator, but he is a dick.....

I am tired of this, no flexability this thread is as hamstrung as everything else.

Doug, at least your being honest... but the other guys are less dick or dickless??  lol
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« Reply #306 on: February 01, 2010, 12:16:29 AM »
whats wrong with "hamstrung"?

i only wish our government was more "hamstrung" and less so controlled by the socialist/progressive movement
wearing democrats clothes.

and yes the west coast is "whacked" when it comes to politics, not sure how bad it is in BC
but down here in the peoples republic of western washington it is really bad.

its so bad that the tree huggers will keep hugging a tree as it is falling over or so it would seem.

what with spotted owls, tree huggers, AGW alarmist's, PETA, sierra club, vegetarians, and a plethora of other left wing
nut jobs, it is hard to find clean air to breath.

( you know vegan's have to eat beans for protein, and we all know what beans do to most folks)

:)

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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #307 on: February 01, 2010, 12:55:56 AM »
NO NO NO.
Its the basalmic republic of Boblevakia.
The concrete and timber capital of the west ( even the windows are wood and concrete ).

Land of the cement ships and wood sails.

Where the men are men and nearly indistinguishable from the ladies.

Oh to live in such a land......
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #308 on: February 01, 2010, 01:54:39 AM »
Doug:

i would have to tell you straight up front, we would likely have to declare war on Stanistan
take over his country, in order to save them from themselves, then start a full on re-education
of the populace.

you know, pretty much as it has been between clan's since the beginning of time,

unless of course his women are hairier than ours???  if that is the case, he wins!

:)

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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #309 on: February 01, 2010, 02:58:24 PM »
Hmm.
You bring up an interesting point Bob.

I think we would need to do a scientific studdy of the pelts on both.
In any event I think its a non issue when seen through the Boblevakian concrete looking glass.

I have no time for this. Since Dougladesh adopted the leaf as our currency we have a slight inflation problem that can only be fixed by setting fire to all the trees. We have some burning to do....

Good thing we can poke fun at ourselves eh?
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #310 on: February 01, 2010, 05:11:25 PM »
Bob, unfortunately you'd have to come up with some evidence of "weapons of mass destruction" out west here, and since the Feds have moved all our army bases out of here into Alberta, you'd be best to look around Ottawa for them.  That's where all the money has been spent on the armed forces in Canada. It's of course just a coincidence that Stephen the not-so-great is from Alberta, and his throne is located in Ottawa.

Andrew, I believe it was an arms dealer that gave Mulroney his bribes wasn't it?  I also believe you once said if you want to find corruption, just follow the money?  Could it be that Stephen isn't building up the armed forces because he likes them, rather he likes the "residual fallout" that comes from promoting spending to big, and yes foreign arms dealers?
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #311 on: February 01, 2010, 11:38:45 PM »
Stan, you really must remember the headlines from Canada's Pravda..er.. the Toronto Star. the Scandal was for Airbus, which the mounties and a Royal Commission found no fault. That money was not a bride, never was, the PM was out of office, therefore could not influence anyone.  Carl Hienz Shriver is the man you are thinking about, and he was working for a German Tank/Armoured Car company that wanted to get a contract for the LAV2's and 3's we were eventually bought from GM.  According to the official record, Mulroney did not call the Minister of Defense, or the Liberal one that soon followed the defeat of the PC government.  There that is following the money, you are just spouting Liberal Propaganda that is lies, innuendo and a drive by smear.  BTW Mr Shriver said afterward, about 9 months ago here in Ottawa, that Mr Mulroney was not worth the $300K... but then again Canadians already knew that LOL

The military bases in BC were closed by Paul Martin, as Finance Minister in a Liberal Gov't.  As for Ottawa, our base here has closed.  Petawawa has gotten a lot of money, but then again it is a Combat Arms base that trains for the Sandbox.  Trenton has received money for those new C17 Jets that are flying in needed supplies to the poor people of Haiti.  Wainwright Alberta looks like Afghanistan and is a completely electronically monitored training area for the Sandbox...  BC has had a mess of money spent on it for Op Podium, that starts in 2 weeks.

You could always feel safe knowing the BCD. BCR.s and the Rocky Mountain Rangers (All highly decorated units in the CF) would be there to defend Stanistan... if they decided to stay.  And the Huge Naval Port in Esquimalt would protect your sea lanes with 1/2 the Canadian Navy and our only sea going sub.
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #312 on: February 01, 2010, 11:39:33 PM »
Back on Topic,

The Chinese 'get it' on climate change
John McLaughlin
The blogsite IceCap includes a fascinating article by a Mr. Li Xing published in China Daily under the headline "Do three errors mean breaking point for IPCC?".

Mr. Xing recounts his attendance at the recent United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. He writes of attending a panel featuring various skeptics concerning work done by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). He came away particularly impressed by a talk given by Dr Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist and founding director of the US Weather Satellite Service, who, as Xing reports, "challenged the IPCC findings with his research data."

Xing tells of meeting with IPCC chairman Dr Rajendra Pachauri and others about skeptic views and seeing those views brushed aside without serious appraisal. He also inquired why IPCC reports included very little data from Chinese researchers.

    China is not a small country. Its landmass spans several climate zones and includes the roof of the world. I have to wonder how data from China would affect the IPCC's findings.

    Several Chinese scientists who have gone over the IPCC report believe that the IPCC may have overstated the link between global temperature and CO2 in the atmosphere.

    In a paper published in the December issue of the Chinese language Earth Science magazine, Ding Zhongli, an established environmental scientist, stated that the current temperatures on earth look normal if global climate changes over the past 10,000 years are considered.


Xing then cites the recent revelations of significant problems in the IPCC work. These include how "some scientists had favored data which supports the case for ‘global warming' in order to enhance their grant proposals," the announcement that an IPCC claim of total glacier melt in the Himalayas by 2035 was based on "sheer speculation" -- not peer-reviewed scientific work, and revelation that the IPCC had misrepresented an unpublished report linking climate change with an increase in natural disasters even when the report's author, Dr Robert Muir-Wood, a researcher in risk management not climatology, had explicitly stated the opposite.

Mr. Xing concludes:

    I am particularly troubled by the fact that top IPCC officials do not seem to take these revelations seriously. Interviewed by the BBC, Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, vice-chairman of the IPCC, dismissed the matter as a "human mistake".

    Ancient Chinese considered three a breaking point. They could forgive two errors, but not a third. Now that the IPCC has admitted three "human" errors, isn't it time scientists gave its work a serious review?


It is amazing that Chinese media examine what has recently come out revealing IPCC "mistakes" and conclude more serious examination of its work is in order. Yet the American mainstream media brush aside such concerns seeking to keep an obvious political agenda alive.

John McLaughlin
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #313 on: February 01, 2010, 11:47:07 PM »
Save the Rain-forest!!!

Oh wait.....

From the Times OnLine (via "Best of the Web"):

UN climate panel shamed by bogus rainforest claim

A STARTLING report by the United Nations climate watchdog that global warming might wipe out 40% of the Amazon rainforest was based on an unsubstantiated claim by green campaigners who had little scientific expertise. (lead paragraph)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/envi...icle7009705.ece


I am shocked I tell you... shocked!!!
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Re: Climate Warming a hoax?
« Reply #314 on: February 02, 2010, 01:01:11 AM »
Save the Rain-forest!!!

Oh wait.....
global warming might wipe out 40% of the Amazon rainforest
I am shocked I tell you... shocked!!!

A man can dream.....
I'm biased however because I don't like Brazil, even More than I dislike Japan.....

Hey did you read this?
Actually this IS a good idea

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/758625--knock-on-wood-biomass-power-is-coming

I don't think I can convince you that this is good for the earth but it is good for Ontrio and everyone down wind. Combined with the closing of the Kidd Creek Met site this spring ( not so good for the People of Timmins ) and we might all breath a Little easier
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