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Highest CO2 concentrations in roughly 600,000 years (ice cores)
Are you sure of that? The 1900-1960s had higher levels - Killer SMOG in GB and Europe. Cars and factories in the West have become cleaner. I also was reading an article by an Historian that pointed out the Middle ages had higher levels, oh but wait that was the little ice age, not global warming, inconvenient of me to point that out
Pine bark beetles wiping out vast tracks of forest (usually kept in check by lower temps)
Yes, except it appears mans limiting of free burns by the forests may have contributed there, so our wish to not clear cut, and allow the fires to not burn actually help the beetles (not native to BC either) so I will give you that, that is a man made problem, but nothing to do with global climate change
Ocean acidification
That would be with acid rain, Sulfer not CO2, and we have been working in the western work since the days of ACID rain to change that... its Chinna and the third world that produce that now
Reef die off
see above
What appear to be more intense (at least changing) storm cycles
ummmm thats why the hurricane season these past two years have been .. quiet. But that would explain the sudden storms that would regularly sink Spanish Gold shipments, or the Kamikaze storm that wiped out the Chinese invasion fleet. It would also explain the hot summers that cause the mold to grow in the rye fields causing the black plague. So is it more intense or just changing? And what does that have to do with us??
Decrease in size of polar caps
Actually, the ice cap has been getting larger for the past 8 years, just ask the Inuit. Course the perma frost in the Western Arctic has started to thaw, but then the eastern arctic it has gotten colder. BTW it was -30C in Calgary today.. love that warming
Migratory behavior that appears to be confused due to changing climate
Now now that is a stretch. Why it was only a few years ago the Scientists where blaming it on all the buildings that were causing micro climates, the lights at night that block out thier view of the stars, and of course now we are told not to turn off the building lights because when we do that... bingo we have an increase in bird strikes. Of course, it does not help with all those old ladies feeding bread to the Geese that they decide not to leave for southern climates.
All point to climate change.
No, they point to change. Some man made, some not
What is ultimately responsible is anyone's guess.
Finally you are making sense
Citing the redistribution of wealth is not an adequate argument to stay the current course and continue trashing the nest.
On this I agree with you, we need to continue to combat pollution. We need to use trade and tarrifs to get the 3d world to adopt clean ways of doing things, not cheap and dirty (like how they make Listeroids). But you have to admit that trying to get funding for a Global Warming thesis is easier than one pointing out the Sun is in its normal rest period. when you have the likes of AUC doing your peer review
Let's assume that we don't do anything and the global warming skeptics are wrong. Then what?
What about this. We go off half cocked, ruin our economies and find out global warming is a hoax... what then... ask the Chinese for our money back??
As for Alternative energy, I am all in favour of it, on National Security Grounds so we can tell the Arabs to F-off and drink their oil and we can stop sponsoring Terrorists.
Are you willing to gamble on the survival of future generations because you're concerned about redistribution of wealth?
Yes, I dont want to enslave my children to some third world power base who has our wealth and is taking care of themselves. You suffer too much of the white mans guilt for all the wrongs in the world. I dont buy in to it. Western Civilization for all its wort's is not that bad
Cheers
Andrew