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A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« on: July 08, 2009, 07:07:16 AM »

 It has a Bore of 150mm and a Stroke of 210mm  x 1cyl, for a Total of 226 cubic inches or 3700cc! :o

 It can be viewed at:   Taian Tamec Imp & Exp Co.,Ltd. Look for Model JSD-3200.

 It lists the specific fuel consumption at 170g/kwh.  It is a 1100 RPM Machine. 8)

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 09:27:33 AM »
Our Ruston is 261 cu in, but is only running at 375rpm for 11bhp.

1100rpm for a 10" stroke sounds a bit scary!

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 11:24:15 AM »
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:NK1b1bowl5EJ:0086up.com/UploadFiles/20081210114049919.xls+jsd-3200&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

The above chart was all I could find.  This engine is a 150mm bore x 120 mm stroke.  Thats 6" bore x 4.75" stroke approximately in english.  28 horsepower @ 1100 RPM.  The fuel consumption number is fantastic!

I found a picture of a dual flywheel engine which is the smaller one listed, the JSD-1800 here.
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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 04:01:22 PM »
group buy?

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 04:12:37 PM »
   Just noticed on this chart that the bore is 150mm and stroke is listed at 120mm. Another chart lists the stroke at 210mm, which calculates out to 3.7L or 226 cu.in.

   Piston speed at 1100 RPM would be equivalent to 1760 RPM with a 5 inch stroke. BUT, if one could govern this speed down to 750 RPM or so, then that would reduce piston speed to Low Speed Status.

   This engine has the same Displacement as a 225cu in Slant 6! But only one Cylinder!

   Not a lot of info on this engine. I wonder if it has a Counterbalance Shaft?

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »
RoverJohn;  That's about the only way to keep the Brokerage costs down! Completely load a 40 Foot Container with these units!

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 04:26:04 PM »
I don't know what you guys are doing but my broker fee here is under 100 dollars.

The doc fees, shipping in Canada cost more than the broker and the cost of the shippig from India was less than once it hit the dock
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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 05:10:39 PM »

What I really meant to say was Total costs incurred once the Ship hits the dock, eg. It is cheaper by the unit to deal with a Container that is Identified at port, cleared at port ,etc.  Rather than have your piece that has to be removed from a container and separated from other peoples stuff.

Sorry about the confusion!

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 06:15:34 PM »
Anyone clicked the 'live chat' icon yet? This might be a nice option to something like the Redstone. I only need about 10hp so maybe the 1800 version is my muse.

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 07:00:20 PM »

  I have a suspicion that the Company that makes this engine , also makes the 'Redstone' ::)

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 08:26:40 PM »
No Way!

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 08:35:17 PM »
Well if you buy direct you can probably save money but you are on your own for parts and suport.
You might be able to make some money and recoup the cost by importing a few and selling them. But do you realy want to sit on the stock and then go to the hassle of selling them?

If you import a bunch duds now you have areal problem what to do?
Sell them and lie about it?
Sell them as kits?
Or eat the loss?

Its not that easy and you realy have to consider your options. The chinese are also well known for building great sample engines and then delivering later product with deminishing quality ( cost cutting ).

There is a lot to think about there.... 
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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 09:07:19 PM »
Doug, It would clearly be up to the buyer to decide what, if any, risks they are will to take and they could only decide if that risk is worth taking if they know the price landed. That's why I asked if anyone had talked to them yet. The key to getting good stuff from China is not to have to QC them here. If your broker doesn't have a big enough whip to keep your suppliers in line you have the wrong broker so finding the right broker is really important to avoid problems.  It doesn't sound like the Redstones are coming in all perfect or anything so buying them sight unseen doesn't sound like that big a reach assuming they're the same thing anyway. Group buys spread the risk which is why people try them.

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 11:08:20 PM »

  I don't think I would want the Hassle of importing a container full of engines , even if it was a group buy,unless I could be assured of no hassles with QC.

  It looks as though this company also makes small acreage type tractors and small skid steer tractors(Bobcat)  I was looking at their tractors and they look like the ones they sell in Ardrossan.

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Re: A 226 cubic inch (3700cc) 1 cylinder Chinese Diesel!!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2009, 09:34:24 PM »
I am so sick of the EPA CEPA and any other combination of letters that has gone completely mad in a world full of people that know everything better than me and are so smart they became politicians to protect me from myself.

Clean are and water are good. We need to get back to looking at the root causes of the problems today.

And you know what I don;t realy think they care about me anyhow so the only interest and protections are for their own self interest and money behind it........
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