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CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« on: April 10, 2006, 10:49:09 PM »
Yup, i've got my new toy, and it's HUGE



Loads of pics here

Month or so to restore it (put it back together basically) and then i can play. :)

Mucho happy bunny (but the wife is going to go spare when she sees the size of it :D)

Steve
First love - 1975 Lister SR1, gone to a better place (running a saw bench actually ;))

True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2006, 11:25:25 PM »
but the wife is going to go spare when she sees the size of it :D)


see, how restrained I can be... lol
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Original Lister D, megasquirt multifuel project, compressor and truck alternator.
Current status - project / standby, Fuel, good old pump diesel.

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2006, 08:27:37 PM »
All right!!  Another Listerac is anchored by cast iron AND interest.   ;D

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Currently running PS-Kit 6-1/5Kw...and some MPs and Chanfas and diesel snowplows and trucks and stuff.

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 01:13:05 AM »
Just a quicky on this one, i finally got it out of the van today (needed to borrow a hoist).

It spins without any grind, grumble or creak, so hopefully the bearings aren't to bad, the supposedly dead injector pump just needed a strip down and clean out (it's been stood for a while and the surfaces had gummed up). Injector feed pipe needs replacing but that's to be expected of such thin pipework i suppose.

Just need to order up a starting handle, gasket set and new rings and i should be able to see how it runs.

Think the valves might need grinding though ...



more pics @ http://www.jestersltd.com/pics

Must say another big thankyou to the guy who ebayed it, his picture was crap compared to seeing it "in the flesh" :D
First love - 1975 Lister SR1, gone to a better place (running a saw bench actually ;))

True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2006, 01:43:20 AM »
remember, oil can full of fresh oil, and oil EVERYTHING liberally, it's smoke like a bitch but that don't matter.

also, crank her decompressed until the oil pump is showing pressurised displacement.

I'm 40 miles away so if you need a hand (or to see a working one to get a feel) gissa shout.
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3Kw 130 VDC Dynamo to be added. (compressor + hyd pump)
Original Lister D, megasquirt multifuel project, compressor and truck alternator.
Current status - project / standby, Fuel, good old pump diesel.

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 07:39:39 PM »
Got everything bleed up, cranked for a bit, gave it a "squirt" of easy
start (which wifey kindly picked up while taking the youngest out in
the car to get her to sleep) and it fired! Twice then stopped, hm just
runing on the easystart then.

Stripped and rebuilt the pump again, now i get a good squirt of fuel
out of the fuel line instead of a few drops, so i guess i'd fubar'd
the pump timing.

Cranked the engine again (more easystart) and this time it actually
kicked in! Clouds of black crap everywhere! :) It responded to rack
changes so it was definately runing on diesel, yay! I shut it off &
tried taking the grin off my face.

Tried restarting it and it didn't want to play. I pulled the injector
and found a sitting puddle of diesel in the head, it's pissing out of
the weep valve (guessing the weep valve is the excess fuel leak off?
or is it an injector bleed valve that i could shut?) Pretty sure i've
got a blocked injector nozzle, with the nozzle off the body pumps fuel
quite happily, but once the injector tip is on it starts to pump out
of the weep valve.

Also think i've got a very slight leak from the c-o-v, not sure yet i
need to keep it running to be sure.

Damn sight happier than i was yesterday though :D

steve
First love - 1975 Lister SR1, gone to a better place (running a saw bench actually ;))

True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 02:18:19 PM »
Steve---

Your experiences further confirm my belief that,  "If the Lister doesn't start YOU did something wrong."  They're that simple. Injector timing makes a HUGE difference in cranking and running.

It sounds like a clogged injector in your case.  They're tight in tolorences and very well finished but not really difficult to dissassemble, clean and put back together..   Use a piece of charred wooden dowel to polish any discoloration or gumminess.  DON'T use abrasive clothes or paper.  The tolorences are that tight.  Make note of spring tensioning and reassemble the same way.
       [size=12CAUTIONpt][/size]    (I know it's old, but in firearms we've found that the most basic of safety cautions do NOT get passed on to newer generations.)
     The injector can blow diesel fuel through the skin.....and that is NOT good.   Point it away or into a container.  It should create a fog of fuel.  If it squirts or drips it's dirty and needs cleaning.  About the only thing that actually *ruins* them is water and hammer-handed mechanics with abrasives.
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Currently running PS-Kit 6-1/5Kw...and some MPs and Chanfas and diesel snowplows and trucks and stuff.

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True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2006, 01:24:23 PM »
you appear to have the belt flywheel on the wrong side, and please please throw away that tin of easy start, motors get addicted to that shit and it fucks them up no end, also, it may be an artifact of the camera lens, but that belt flywheel doesn't look like it is on square? and did I hear "bogey knights" at the beginning of the clip?
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3Kw 130 VDC Dynamo to be added. (compressor + hyd pump)
Original Lister D, megasquirt multifuel project, compressor and truck alternator.
Current status - project / standby, Fuel, good old pump diesel.

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2006, 01:32:58 PM »
flywheels are wrongly mounted due to me not taking them off yet :D

the easystart is nomore, turn out it was a buggered injector casuing the problems, swapped it out for a good unit and it's been fine since.

Any dodgy soundtracks are due to windows movie maker playing up, original recording was 18meg and i don't think my bandwidth bill would like that!
First love - 1975 Lister SR1, gone to a better place (running a saw bench actually ;))

True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 01:37:20 PM »
flywheels are wrongly mounted due to me not taking them off yet :D

the easystart is nomore, turn out it was a buggered injector casuing the problems, swapped it out for a good unit and it's been fine since.

Any dodgy soundtracks are due to windows movie maker playing up, original recording was 18meg and i don't think my bandwidth bill would like that!

just that bogey knights was an mod surplus yard down mutton cove next to my uncles old church, we built about two boats out of that place and god knows what else, course that was in the days when MOD surplus was genuinely cheap stuff, not that it is any more, was just wondering if they were still in business.

next to bogeys also on church land was the old school, and next to that a yard, also chursh land, and that was where bellamour van rentals started out.  course I'm going back to mid / late seventies now, I hear the church and school buildings have vanished now.
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Original Lister CS 6/1 Start-o-matic 2.5 Kw (radiator conversion)
3Kw 130 VDC Dynamo to be added. (compressor + hyd pump)
Original Lister D, megasquirt multifuel project, compressor and truck alternator.
Current status - project / standby, Fuel, good old pump diesel.

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Re: CS 6/1 rescued from eBay
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2006, 01:40:20 PM »
bogeys was torched a few years ago dunno if it reopened, and their other branch in the city center is now an office furniture center :(
First love - 1975 Lister SR1, gone to a better place (running a saw bench actually ;))

True love - unknown vintage CS6/1 with SOM flywheels

linkie to the project so far --- http://jestersltd.com/pics/index.php

Lister owners do it at 650 strokes a minute ;)