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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 10:21:40 PM »
Well let's see, Acorn's getting almost a billion dollars of my (tax) money, for thier roll in stealing this election, yes stealing as in registering the whole Dallas Cowboys offensive line to vote in Arizona. this sort of explains why liberals don't want you to have to show ID to vote, as long as they know the names of the fake people they registered they can have anyone waltz in and vote under that name. They still haven't figured out how more people voted in the minnesota congressional race than live there, but I know how it happened! this should pretty much ensure that the dems will be in power pretty much for ever since thanks to that jack ass McCain & his gang of 14, Obama will get to pack the courts with activist judges that make rulings on thier "feelings" instead of the laws our nation was founded upon. as for 1930's Germany we're probably closer to 1918 Russia with the president firing company presdents, Then he has the balls to complain that the people that put thier money into backing chrysler weren't willing to accept 10 cents on the dollar back for thier investment while giving 55 percent of the company to the united auto workers union, the federal takeover of banks, insurance & car companies, the comming restrictions on carbon, firearms, ammunition, federalized health care, restrictions on personal freedoms & travel will be after that. Oh don't forget were going to let the Obama media machine, also known as news papers get "tax free" status as long as they don't "offically" endorse a candidiate, that doesn't mean they can't shamelessly promote them in thier articals & editorials, just that they can't "endorse" them. So get your supplies & ammo now before it's all gone & the Brown Shirts come knockin on your door. On the plus side if you were to become a terrorist & blow up some stuff you might get on his good side, he seems to like terrorists like William Ayers, Abu Zybeida & that sort.  guess i'll end this rant, until the next time this topic comes back to the top.
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2009, 03:23:00 AM »
COACH, Coach, coach!

To where should we move?

Did you bother to register and vote? 

Only once?

What have you done about these atrocities besides complain?

Could any of these things happened without the dynamic leadershipness of the Cheney – Bush team?

Are you going to mail your social security checks to the Republican National Committee?

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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 04:57:17 AM »
There's no place left to go except maybe the moon or mars Casey.

Yes Casey I vote, I have voted in every election since i turned 18,  even off year congressional elections. I once drove back 2 1/2 hours from my (hunting) vacation, voted then drove back, total of 6 hours just to vote, you got a story to compare?

What have I done? I speak to anyone who will listen, including my union "Brothers" that hate my guts for what i believe, I donate to my party, I write to my congressman, I donate to the NRA & am a life member.

Even though I will agree GW Bush lost his way & spent like a drunken sailor, most of the rest of what they did was to protect the people of this country, I guess it's easy to look upon us poor slobs, living on the mainland, that had two buildings blown out from under us & 3500 people killed, 1/3 of the pentagon destroyed, when your way over there & think none of that stuff was "real'. Well I can tell you it is, I was less that two miles from the pentagon at the time, i heard the explosion, I saw the smoke. each of my three kids have a school mate who lost a parent. What they did they did for us, And at the time NOT a damned soul including her highness princess Pelosi, stood up to complain. That is untill years later when they felt  they could use these things, that they approved of at the time,to thier political advantage. If you will remember, if your memory is better than pelosi's, every other country, england, france & germany included had similar intel that told them saddam had WMD's, was alqaeda in Iraq, no, should they have said they were with out being sure, no. should we have invaded Iraq anyway, yes for two good reasons, #1. the 12 U.N. resolutions that Saddam ignored that gave the world permission to search every inch of thier counrty for offensive weapons that they were not allowed to have as a conquered counrty. they were conquered in the 1st gulf war in case you don't remember. if you can remember back past breakfast they ept us from checking to see if they had WMD's for years in defiance of these resolutions. #2 Invading Iraq gave all the scum bag terrorists a place to go to fight the "great satan" that they could get to fairly easily, keeping them from coming here, limiting the US casualties & taking out the maximum number of terrorists. yes we could have done this in Afganistan, but our casualties would have been extremely high, just ask the russians about that.
Could any of these things have happened with out Bush & Cheney, It's a pretty good bet none of them could happen without the willingly biased news media, spoon feeding ignorant & uninformed people page after page of bullshit.
It's pretty much a nobrainer that 9/11 would not have happened if that stupid assed Bill Clinton had been paying attention to what was happening instead of gettin' his "willie" worked on in the oval office. He was offered bin-laden on a platter but wouldn't take him even after the Cole had been bombed.

am i going to mail my social security check to the RNC ? no chance of that happening, in case you haven't noticed, with all the money 'Bama's spending there's no way I'll ever see a dime of the money i'm paying in SS taxes, I fully expect to be paying 70 percent of my salary to the federal govt by 2011.

When are you libs gonna wake up & figure out that most of the people in the world are going to hate us no matter how much money we give them, they need an evil in their lives to make them worth living, they may love Obama, but they will still hate the USA. their leaders maintain thier power by making us the bad guy.

You ever notice how when a conservative screws up, they have to go (out of politics) sometimes go to jail, hell, poor ted stevens got railroaded because the prosecutors kept secret the information that cleared him of any wrong doing, they kept it secret long enough to keep him from winning re-election, then he was cleared of all charges. when Dem's screw up, they get to run a house commitie, Barney Frank fixed parking tickets for the "johns" comming to his boy friends prostitution servcie being run out of barney capitol hill apartment, he's chairman of the house banking committie, his current boy friend is a high ranking lawyer with Fannie-Mae, you know the fannie-mae that insured all those bad loans the banks were forced to make under the "comunity re-investment act", Chris Dodd got a "special" loan  on one of his houses from countrywide, he runs a senate commitie, Charlie Rangle has been dodging taxes on his  condo in peurtro rico for years & he writes the tax laws ( how better to know how to avoid paying taxes) How many other tax cheats does Obama have in his cabinet now? there are so many I lose count, no republican could get away with that!
So atleast when our party members screw up we make sure they know they have done wrong, your party, they put the slime in chare of something!
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 05:15:49 AM »
Oh & if you would like to see Barney Frank & the lovely Maxine Waters talking about how great of shape the home mortgage system was in, in at the end of 2004 let me know & i'll give you a link to the you tube video, this video was during the "evil" Bush administrations attempt to correct the comming banking crisis. & I can give you another of the congressman from arlington, va telling people that "people with money think they should be allowed to keep it" you wanted some Karl Marx, there's Karl Marx for you!
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2009, 06:35:25 AM »
it may come as a shock to some, but i was born a democrat, campaigned for a democrat for senator when i was in highschool
and proudly voted for jimmy carter when he made his run for president...

suffice it to say i learned my lesson!

voted for Ronald in the next election and have voted a straight republican ticket every since!

and no all republican's are good, some are not so good all the way to aweful, thankfully one of which saved us and defected recently
to the other side.

i used to get pretty wound up about this political crap, but having lived in the people republic of western washington for the last 23 years
my vote is for naught in every election anyway,, but i still vote!

the pendelum will swing, this country is a tough old bird, has been down on its lips before, and gotten up again.

obama will give a hell of a run, but he is one man, and i got to believe the countries forefathers foresaw the possibility of such a character
getting into office and provided several checks and balances,, and if all else fails they provided for a failsafe in the 2nd ammendment.

its doubtful it will come to anything that drastic, the way i figure it is the folks that voted for obama will turn on him soon enough
and his approval rating will go into the toilet and he will be effectively stopped in his tracks.

even the democrats cannot agree on everything, even if it is socialism!

if you put 10 democrats in the same room and ask them to come to consensus on socialism, you will have no agreement
and at least 10 different varieties of socialism as the result.

socialism/communism doesn't work, for one reason, Karl Marx plan had a fatal flaw from the beginning
his cornerstone was a belief that all people are basically good.

ya right!

all people are not basically good, because "good" is a subjective term.

Bill Clinton said it best when he asked:

"it all depends on what the meaning of "is", is?"

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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2009, 07:16:03 AM »
I ask a few questions and I'm labeled.  Perhaps Libeled. 

When a person votes straight anything they have ceased to ask questions.

Without questions how can there be any valid answers?  Oops, another question.

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And really guys, I do often dine with the servants.  ::)
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2009, 11:18:13 AM »
Did i label you? re-reading my post, i did, i called you a lib. Well if the tye-dye fits....
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2009, 03:06:37 PM »
you are correct, in that i vote a straight ticket and have long since quit asking questions.

you wanna know why?

i will tell you why!

its because every time i ask a question of a liberal democrat, i get the same flawed logic, the same party line
same old bullcrap.

the way i see it is the republican party is about as conservative as the democratic party of 40 or 50 years ago,
the democrats have moved so far left, there really is no reason to have a discussion any more.

they aren't gonna listen to me, so why should i listen to them?

i can't join a "tea party" without them branding me a lunatic, fringe element, or from the astro turf movement as pelosi
would say.

call me whatever you like, but you won't call me a democrat, liberal or socialist

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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2009, 02:40:20 AM »
So let me get this straight.  You're not going to do the following activities because they're just too socialist for you to participate.

     1.  Call the police.
     2.  Call the fire department.
     3.  Support the department of defense.
     4.  Cash your social security checks.
     5.  Sign up for social security medicare.
     6.  Purchase insurance - it's just privatized socialism.

Me?  RA 1976nnnn

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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »
Scott...Are you forgetting sunday dec 7th 1941.  Heck I'm a Canadian and even I remember all about that!  Even if you aren't old enough to have been aware at the time you can't have slept through that much school down there in the US  ;D
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2009, 04:21:38 PM »
Casey:

"    1.  Call the police.
     2.  Call the fire department.
     3.  Support the department of defense.
     4.  Cash your social security checks.
     5.  Sign up for social security medicare.
     6.  Purchase insurance - it's just privatized socialism"

starting from the top

1. call the police?  interesting, everytime i need a cop he is nowhere to be found, always late enough to be of no help
but yes i will support the police dept. got no choice re support, local taxing authority see's to that.

2. call the fire dept?  well once i get my place built on the hill,if there should be a fire, the place will be burned to ashes and the grass will be well on its way to the first mowing before they are able to respong,, but yes i will support the fire dept. got no choice re support, the local taxing authority takes from me and others to support them...

3. dept of defense?  hell yes i will support the men and women that fight to keep this country and others safe, and yes i will support their use of whatever force is necessary to attain those ends, including waterboarding! last i checked even if i was opposed to the military i have to support them, got no choice but to pay taxes..

4. social security?  i turn 53 this year and have been paying into the system since i was 13 or 14 years old, so yes i would like to get back some of what i put in,, but.... it is likely that after obama has his way with our country i will have to be at least 70 year old before i can apply for social security,, same with medicare... and yes i will continue to pay in,, because i have no choice!

5. medicare?  see number 4 above

6. purchase insurance?  enough to cover liability but likely no more, what i plan to build would likely be skirted by the insurance company anyway, but yes i have to pay for liability on the car, and property because of state mandates and because of liberal leaning commie pinko sexually confused atty's that spend their time chasing ambulances and look to suck bucks out of anyone that they can get to hold still long enough..

if you notice, most of this list is mandatory, i have no choice in the matter even if i disagree'd

however, where i can make a choice it certainly won't be leaning toward the left that is for sure.

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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2009, 07:10:11 PM »
There is a fundimental problem with the wold today that I think is a the root of tall these promblems

And its an issue of productivity of workers and suply and demand and no one talks about this.....

 They say a worker today is at least twice as productive as they were 40 years ago, yet our standard of living continues to decline. Instead of working less we work more to compensate. We live hand to mouth and when people are offered free credit they use. Goverment seems to think that to a point they can spend to overcome this shortfall in real wages by injecting money ( spending on defence in Regan ) and deregulation.

Well it worked for 20 years but now we are deap in debt,  heavily taxed and overworked.

So where did all the saving from those HUGE 2 and 3 % productivity increases in the past 15 years go.

I don't understand why am I to blame and asked for cocessions and told I am overpayed and need to give up things when my productivity has nearly trippled and my wages and benifts stayed stagnant for contract after contract. Now I see the managemant tructure turn Japanese management through peer presure and stress. A japanese worker has triple the amount of injuries than a Canadian worker doing the same job and sufferes a 25% increase instress related illness.

That guy is worse off than me????

See if I am reading the numbers right I should be make 20% more in real wages right now and working 25% less hours and something is gon wrong because no one is getting that excecpt the elete at the top of our society. AND I don't undertsnad what they did to get all of my productivity gain
 
There almost seems to be plan to turn my life into a pre union the swet shop my great grandfather worked in             
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2009, 07:46:45 PM »
Doug:

i would be very interested to hear how you figure you are 3 times more productive than you were 25-30 years ago?

can you pull 3 times the wire through conduit than you could 25 years ago?

this productivity arguement has some underlieing proviso's in my opinion.

look at union auto workers, do you really think they work faster than they did back in henry fords model T lines did?
whatever gains in productivity comes from better mechanization and automation.

how many overweight workers to you see in the old film clips on the model T lines?  narry a one, compared to today?

surely a farmer with a 500hp 4 wheel drive tractor can be more productive than his counterpart of 30 years ago with his
150hp 2 wheel drive john deere, but is it the man or the machine that makes the difference?

i see more farmers in town drinking coffee today than i did 30 years ago.

i think this productivity thing is a figment of union imagination, where they take all the credit for gains in production
when nearly all can be explained by companies investment in machinery.

if it comes down to not liking the fact that the bosses are making all the money, quit your union job
start a business, and become the boss!  make all those millions of dollars and keep them all for yourself.

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2009, 08:57:14 PM »
No Bob I am not specificaly 3 times more productive but there are 3 times less men doing jobs in my plant than there were lets say in in 1970.

And we produce more product so therefore as a hole we are 3 times more productive, but to get there entire classes of job had to disapear.

Is an auto worker 3 times more productiove than in 1970 I don;t know we would have to measure the line speed and product coming out by man power required to do the job....

Is a machinist 20 times more productive if we replace 19 of 20 machinists in a line and lave the one guy remaining to baby sit the CNC machines that replaced them?

Is there a disconnect here between skill and productivity?

Bob do find with all the new tools and technology you have to do less types of service to heavy equipment and you have a quicker grasp of the problems than you did before you had all these new tools at your disposal?


I shouldn; have to give up things if we are more productive as a whole work group and we make profit for our handlers and I think I should have a share in that proffit as well mayebe a it should be a split between more time off and wages to be fair. But I am not any more a cost than any opther electrician was years ago am I ?

Or does the fact we can de skill a job today and outsource so much of it mean my labour is simply not worth as much as it used to be?

You know what Bob I bet if you did a time studdy of how long it took to pull a run of cable today where I work and compared it to the old days of brute force and working out an 8 yard bucket. The calculated the cost of all those missing fingers falls and crush injuries caused by doing things the hard way back then to now well maybe I am double or triple the productivity of an electrician at my job 25 or 30 years ago. And even if I am not any better at all why am I after inflation loosing ground ?
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Re: 'The Obama Deception' A Documentary film by Alex Jones.
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2009, 04:48:58 AM »
Gotta agree with Doug on this one Bob, you're waaay out of touch.  Take a look at the difference between the amount of income earned by the top 5% of the population now, compared with the bottom 95%, then compare the same figures for 1975.  I did that once, forgot the exact numbers but they are there if you care to look them up.

Doug, this answers your question on where has all the money gone.  I came back for traveling (on the cheap) in S. America for 6 weeks last fall.  If ever you want to see how true the saying is "it doesn't hurt to be poor, just poorer than....." go to somewhere really poor like backcountry Bolivia, or Peru.

The number of revolutions in S. America in the last 50 years is staggering!  It's not because they are genetically inclined to be obstreperous, they are just poor and poor people get fed up after awhile and revolt.  In that sense, Karl was right Bob!  ;)
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