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Re: My New WVO Processor
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2011, 01:44:49 AM »
Horsepoor,

It's WVO (waste vegetable oil), not WMO (waste motor oil).
I don't think you can get WMO that color without re-distilling it.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2011, 09:08:56 AM »
Thank you, I've been reading so many of the other WMO processing threads on this forum and others that I got the threads mixed up.
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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2011, 11:00:52 PM »

thanks for the update

question
Do you know how much energy is consumed during processing?  
Deeiche

Yes...
Heater = 500 watts
Pump = 230 watts
Fan = 75 watts
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Total = 805 watts

Warm up time is 1/2hr = 500 watts X 1/2 hr = .25 kw/hr
Process time is 1 hour = 805 watts or .8kw/hr

Total elec. energy used is = 1.05 kw/hr

In my area I pay 8.5 cents per kw/hr so total processing cost is 8.9 cents.

Now, if I had to process off grid using the listeroid, I would burn approx. 1 liter of fuel to do this job.
So, for every 20 liters of free WVO that I process, 1 liter would be used, netting 19 liters of product.

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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2011, 11:05:42 PM »
I really enjoyed watching this video and several others on your site. I am amazed how pure the processed oil looks as it came out. Did you start with dirty waste motor oil?

Yes. I take the collected oil and settle it for a week. Then pour it through a strainer into the processor.
I think the key to this system is to keep the batches small and try to get as many passes through the centrifuge as possible in a 1 hour period.
( I say 1 hour because that's what I targeted as a processing time )
That's why I reduced my tank from a 45 gal. drum to a 9 gal. (30 liter) vessel.

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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2011, 11:10:56 PM »
Horsepoor, I believe Veggie is talking about WVO, not WMO. That is Veggie Oil, NOT motor oil.

What else would Veggie be burning anyway?  :laugh:

I think there is more than one confusing cross-reference going on here.

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« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2011, 12:16:07 AM »

thanks for the update

question
Do you know how much energy is consumed during processing?  
Deeiche

Yes...
Heater = 500 watts
Pump = 230 watts
Fan = 75 watts
============
Total = 805 watts

Warm up time is 1/2hr = 500 watts X 1/2 hr = .25 kw/hr
Process time is 1 hour = 805 watts or .8kw/hr

Total elec. energy used is = 1.05 kw/hr

In my area I pay 8.5 cents per kw/hr so total processing cost is 8.9 cents.

Now, if I had to process off grid using the listeroid, I would burn approx. 1 liter of fuel to do this job.
So, for every 20 liters of free WVO that I process, 1 liter would be used, netting 19 liters of product.

cheers,
veggie

thanks, that is the data I was interested in.

I was thinking in an off-grid environment one of the small aircooled horizontal changfa cousins could directly drive the pump.


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« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2011, 02:15:18 AM »
I went back and looked at this thread.  What a great education.  The MK II is my example unit.  I can't do nearly as nice work but it turns me on each time I watch the video.

In fact, I'm going out to the garage right now.  Thanks

As for energy consumption I rate the buffered oil to be worth about $4 a gallon so my 15 gallon processor will cost just a few nickels a gallon so a good return.  I also expect to run my biodiesel through the same processor.

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(Next Day Edit)  I got the Ford cartridge oil filter receiver mounted.  I'm using it as a pump protector screen.  I bought the cheapest one I could find hoping it had the loosest filtering as the centrifuge will be doing the real work of cleaning the fuel.  Does anyone know where I can actually find out the micron rating for different Ford oil filters?
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« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2011, 07:45:06 PM »
I have seen oil that clean only after the seal was broken from a cubie. Your source must not fry anything but fies.

Any kind of breaded product darkens the oil from cooking.
There was a local guy that ran WVOPIPELINE.com that was running 2 gravity fed Simple Centrifuges and his oil was never that light in color.
He usually ran his oil through 400- 75 micron barrel filters then heated to 180 and settled for a week.
He had a sample tested at a lab and was certified clean to 0.5 micron +/- 0.25 and still wasn't that clear.
Ofcourse alot of his oil was used to make tortia chips a cantina and a chinese resturant that fried everything.

Personally mine oil is clear but closer to a light tea color because one of my sources cooks alot of breaded items and they use canola. Which is darker new that creamy (pho) is when it is heated up.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not calling foul but that is some really light oil.

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« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2011, 01:37:54 AM »

The oil I get stays in the restaurant frier for approx. 1 week.
It is darker when I pick it up compared to when it's finished
processing, but I have seen darker oils from some of the other suppliers I worked with.

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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2011, 04:02:56 AM »
I just said Good-Bye to my original WVO supplier this week.  I learned a lot from them.  I learned that the hamburger palace up the road has really great oil.  Four cubies through the 100 micron filter before it starts really slowing down and a nice light transparent cream soda color.  Where the other place had about a third of the cubie filled with white clouded crap and the rest of the oil having the color of root beer.  It's really amazing the difference in standards different places to eat have.

My Ford filter block came with really cool braided lines but I think after looking at veggie's unit that I'm going to convert to "see through" lines on the low pressure side of the pump.  

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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2011, 02:31:38 AM »
Nice move Casey,

When you see 1/3 of a cubie as a creamy white liquid.....RUN !
That's saturated fats. Bad for WVO us burners and usually unwanted by bioiesel refiners.

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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2011, 04:02:15 AM »
Nice move Casey,

When you see 1/3 of a cubie as a creamy white liquid.....RUN !
That's saturated fats. Bad for WVO us burners and usually unwanted by bioiesel refiners.

veggie

  Not good either for the people eating the food cooked in the saturated fat oil.

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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2011, 07:44:18 PM »
veggie,

I noticed you've got a pressure relief valve in there where I see a lot of systems just using a ball valve to get about 90 PSI out of their pumps.  I've been warned against our cheap friend that is on most every water heater.  What are you using?  Do you have any other suggestions. 

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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2011, 11:58:08 PM »
veggie,

I noticed you've got a pressure relief valve in there where I see a lot of systems just using a ball valve to get about 90 PSI out of their pumps.  I've been warned against our cheap friend that is on most every water heater.  What are you using?  Do you have any other suggestions.  

Casey

Casey,
The R/V is a spring loaded, adjustable brass unit with 1/2" NPT connections.
Cost me approx. $20 at a water systems supply store (Water well pumps, pressure tanks, etc...)

It's there against accidental valve closure which might blow a fitting or hurt the centrifuge.
The R/V has a dial adjustment which is set at 90PSI (The upper recommended limit for the centrifuge).

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« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2011, 07:40:38 PM »
Hey veggie,

Pressure Relief Valve delivered.  I looked at the Watts 530C valve on Granger for $48.  I googled the same valve and came up with the same unit on Drillspot for $26. and guess what.  It came drop shipped from Granger. 

It's getting tough to find things to procrastinate about rather than assemble this thing.  But then you don't get within 3 credits of a degree in procrastination and not be pretty damn good.

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