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BruceM

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 03:08:51 PM »
Thanks, Sanchez, that will be a big help for many folks.  It will also solve the poor regulation problem of some of the ST heads, too.  Some have acceptable performance and some not so good.

If we could  get a report from folks on specific models of CF's that work well (for flicker senstive family members) that would be a big help... anyone???

Gpkull, for folks that are very flicker sensitive, darkness would be preferred by far over the flicker.  It isn't a matter of "disliking".  You're lucky you and your family members aren't affected or only find it slighly annoying. 

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 07:42:51 AM »
 Hello Sanchez, I had a fair amount of flicker from my Listeroid powering my 4 pole generator converted from an old Miller Onan powered A.C. welder.
 Pictures of the genset running can be downloaded at ( http://www.badongo.com/file/4752198 )
 After mounting a 2" X 16" flywheel machined from a chunk of scrap plate which dressed out at about 104 pounds the light flicker on my old fluorescent lights is virtually unnoticeable.
Nothing new about that, I saw it in a picture of an old Lister Start O Matic.
 The next one I'll do will have the belt groove machined integral from the same material if I can find some 2.1/2" plate.

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2007, 05:53:47 AM »
When I mounter my ring gear for electric starting on my 20-2, I intentionally went to heaver than neccessary steel plate.  The 20" dia., 5/16" plate weighs about 60 lbs.  I hope it will help reduce flicker.

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 05:00:47 PM »
ring gear and flywheel pics on my lovson 20-2 thread today.
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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 12:38:50 AM »
Bought the ring gear from Mike M.  Bought a forged steel pipe flange from McMaster-Carr.  Had the local machine shop make the 5/16" steel plate flywheel, drill needed holes, cut the keyway.  Ring gear takes a ford tractor starter.  Total cost about 250.00

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2007, 05:48:51 AM »
I saw a website where a fellow took a 5 hp brigs and Belted it up to his CS clone as a pony motor.

Simple way to roll it over in the cold, slack the bolt to decouple when the CS is running
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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2007, 06:15:43 AM »
Do you have a big enough air tank for a air starter?  Air motor with a tire against the flywheel? 

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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2007, 02:28:35 PM »
I'm not real familiar with existing air starters, but had though a "butter fly" type air wrench  with a small wheel on it should spin it up OK.  My guess is most existing air starters air for bigger engines, and a listeriod has compression release.

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2007, 02:57:47 PM »
Cory is right. It doesn't take an air starter to start a Lister.  All you need is something big enough to roll it over with the compression release engaged.  The inertia of the flywheels will start it once you get it going.
  There is an air start unit in Arizona that's been working well for a long time.  Maybe he'll chime in with the correct sizing and parts.
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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2007, 03:39:26 PM »
Here is a thought, what about a scroll type AC compressor.  It should be efficient the question would be power?  Should be about free from a salvage yard.


 

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2007, 04:28:53 PM »
Probably not cheap but it does not need a battery.
http://www.dieselproducts.com/springstarter/spring_starter.html
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 05:33:32 PM »
Probably not cheap but it does not need a battery.
http://www.dieselproducts.com/springstarter/spring_starter.html

That is pretty neat, did you see the video of it working? I bet it's expensive/


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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 07:08:09 PM »
I recall seeing a spring starter on a lawnmower once a very long time ago.
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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 07:16:27 PM »
I recall seeing a spring starter on a lawnmower once a very long time ago.
My grandpa had a neighbor when I was little that had a whole collection of those.  I thought they were just the neatest thing, but I was like 4. Wait, I still think it's pretty cool.



 
jens- here is a air motor that ought to work, the CFM is horriable(150) but at 3000rpm so should be a lot less at lower rpm.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007110214022966&item=4-1660&catname=air

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Re: light bulbs flicker solution.
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 08:30:21 PM »
That is pretty neat, did you see the video of it working? I bet it's expensive/

All I got was sound seems I need a new codec, what the hell was wrong with one of the thousands of existing ones.  ???

Expensive to buy but the springs off an old garage door present some possibilities. ;)
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