i have no more to say about personalities, perceptions and realities
however i will continue to beat the drum for the listeroids
everytime i see a post that calls the listeroid a piece of crap i brissel
same for the st head.
it would be one thing if there was an alternative to either but there is not!
until the epa banned the importation of these engines one could get a 6/1 and an st5 for anywhere between 1000 and 1500 bucks.
now where is one to get a 1st world quality 6 hp slowspeed diesel and a 1st world quality genhead with clean sine wave for
anywhere near twice the price?
it ain't gonna happen
are the listeroids aircraft quality? certainly not,, but neither is a 350 chevy or a briggs and stratton
what other 1st world quality engine is available that can be torn down and rebuilt with damn few tools, and little experience?
again, none
who here knows of anyone who can make the patterns, cast or have cast the casting, forge the crankshaft, etc etc in a 1st world country
for a 6/1 diesel engine... for a price of about a grand? no one,, 2 grand,,, no one! 5 grand? possibly,,, but i doubt it.
so for your thousand dollars you got all the castings, machined fairly well, and sloppily assembled,, so you need to strip, clean and detail the
damn thing... BFD!!
some folks see the glass as half full, others see it half empty,,, still some will bitch because there are fingerprints on the glass!
some folks see problems and scream that they are a victim, while others see a problem as an opportunity to learn and embrace it.
a few weeks ago i saw the installation of a 6/1 listeroid that was happily running 16/7,,, with no issues,,, and i saw the engine it replaced that
had over 7000 hours that was put into service as a sandy, dirty, ill fitting piece of work that was just run till it had issues, repaired and put back into service
and it was still running when the new engine was set into place!
the listeroid may not be a swiss watch, but it can certainly be made to be a good servicable timex, with some work and attention to detail.
there are those that say "the listeroid is crap, i should have bought a mitsubishi or a kubota or whatever"
"the st head is a piece of scrap" i should have bought a "whatever"
to those that say that:
do you really think those engine's and generators have no problems? if so you are dillusional
even perfectly installed, properly engineered, impeccably maintained,, they to will fail
add to that,
unless you buy a pre engineered genset, have someone qualified to install it properly with all the proper stuff,
sign a service contract etc... they will fail for many of the same reason's that listeroids fail,, that being improper fuel lines
poor mounting , leaking coolant systems etc that are all too common for DIY guys.
even in the pre engineered, installed and maintained units there is failure..
even aircraft engine's fail!
so then one has to ask himself,, do i want to spend the serious bucks to have a professional engineered, installed and maintained unit
so that i don't have as much risk? or..
do i get by for far less money and assume some risk? or
do i cheap out and the scream bloody murder when all goes wrong and proclaim myself a victim and blame everybody but myself.
lets get real
bob g