Manufacturer of Carrol Stream Motors Single-Cyl Horiz. Diesels

[Doug]

There is no " the true Changfa ".

These are all copies of something else, quality varries

Is this a copy itself or the original?
http://www.eshaq.com/machinery/knd.html
To date I have found no earlier version of the KDN than this at the museum of Internal fire in Wales
KND3 date of manufacture unknown....
http://www.internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album04&op=modload&name=PubGallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[rcavictim]

There is no " the true Changfa ".

These are all copies of something else, quality varries

Doug,  The Changfa company seems to have earned the name which is most respected for the best  quality of that single cylinder horizontal, hopper cooled Chinese clone diesel engine.  It is therefore to Changfa that all the other Chinese clones are compared. I can live with that.  It creates a small world in which there is harmony and order.  The engine you referred to might as well be made of unobtanium in that no-one here can get one so it really doesn`t count, no matter what its quality is, and that we do not know either.

To me a true Changfa  is an engine that left the Changfa motor company factory  in one of their crates with their labels affixed.

[Doug]

Try a Kubota dealer ( engine not tractor ) you might be suprised....

Doug

[joek]

found this on kubota canada site, could not find any of the smaller engines on the USA site. Yanmar stopped selling the tf series in the US
http://www.kubota.ca/index.cfm?app=products&a=list&productID=182&product_catID=4&CFID=207713&CFTOKEN=12368637

[Stan]

There's a Kubota dealer in Carp ON (near Ottawa) just off the freeway going N. on the right.  I noticed a Yanmar sign in the window I think.
Stan

[Doug]

In hind sight I should have just asked my brother to order me one.
Then invented a story about the trials and tribulations of importing from Japan.

[Stan]

And then you could have offered to bring in a container load for a suitable profit margin and distributed them to list members 
Stan

[Doug]

There are still several honest bones left in my body ( thick skull plates and back bone mostly )....
 

[Stan]

I guess you can't ever be a modern politician then Doug!
Stan

[rcavictim]

Try a Kubota dealer ( engine not tractor ) you might be suprised....

Doug

Even if that is true Doug, and I don`t doubt your word for a minute, especially after your candid admission of your honesty  ,  there appears to be only one engine offered and they call it a 4-8 HP model on that link posted above.  That is going to limit applications.  I`ll bet the price will put these out of reach of folks just like me as well.  By the time Canadian tractor dealerships import foreign parts they get priced through the stratosphere.  Why is this?  Why is Canadian parts department shelf space so expensive?

[Doug]

I only have a narrow window into the inner workings of One Kubota dealer that sells engines and tractors.

It is a mad house in there, but I know I get just about anything inthe line up if I am willing to ask for it and pony the cash.

They charge what the market will pay. Amagine if I could get a line of good engines that I could back up.

I know a few guys who have made a lot of money selling products like this. Teh reason they made a lot of money is the prices....

[okiezeke]

Real Changfa??
I just bought a YX180 from caroll stream and they cheerfully admitted it was made by changfa.  I figured they were concealing the original manufacturer to get around our EPA.  If they do some assembly here, they can claim to be the manufacturer.

Zeke

[mobile_bob]

i don't know about the smaller changfa's but
the 195's have a full pressure lube to the mains and crossdrilled crank to provide big end oiling
they also have cam bushings
the countershafts ride in 205 ball brgs, the mains are bushings and quite large in diameter for an engine of its size.

i would assume the 1115 and 1125's to be the same as it pertains to oiling

no dippers needed.

zeke:
i have been searching for the yx180 changfa, but cannot find mention of it on the changfa site, is it a water or aircooled?
a horizontal, vertical or slant?  got a link or a picture of it?

bob g

[mobile_bob]

CS forum site is a dead link for me,, can't get it to come up

as for their s195, i will pass and only buy mine from someone that i know is selling genuine changfa
CS has pictured either a smaller engine as a 195 or worse yet a non counterbalanced 195 of some other manufacture.

i like the 195, and am pretty picky about what is being sold as a genuine product, either it is,, or it isn't
and the seller should be straight up when asked.

from what i understand there are many companies in china building these engines and variations of them
and some of them are very cheaply made using very cheap parts such as the lowest grade of ball brgs on the countershafts
a place where you want a good brg in my opinion.

it is one thing to buy a cheaply built engine if you pay a lower price for it, but quite another if it is a cheaply built motor and you
are paying the price for a real changfa.

i hope CS just has the wrong picture of a 195 posted on their site, and it is not a non counterbalanced engine being sold for
a price that is near what a real counterbalanced engine can be bought for.

bob g

[joek]

going to drive out to oxford next week to see whats in the CS showroom, I think all the engines with a YX prefix are Jintan/Swan engines. I have a YX165 I bought from them, no complaints.  Joe

http://www.jc-swan.com/e1/Product1.asp