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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #135 on: June 24, 2008, 04:03:33 AM »
All you know is you have casting and a crank that said Fieled Marshall.

You may have rejects that were sold and built into an engine or extra casting done for them resold to another builder for Metro.
You may infact have a Field Marshall.

No way to tell.....

I have pictures of the topland logo on casting from another engine builder as an example, no explaination was ever clearly given as to why.
Rajkot engine companies are hard to follow.

I have a crank in my petteroid that says DM10
My engine was made by PEC ( Anand Powerline ).
Just because my crank says DM10 I can't assume its KOEL that built the crank or the engine or anything
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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #136 on: June 29, 2008, 10:53:23 AM »


 

Are these things  possible, and more importantly, do any of you have experience doing them?  Running a PTO generator off a tractor here in Iowa can get  mighty expensive. So aI am looking at a lister!

 





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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2009, 06:42:19 PM »
Hi,

I received two 6/1's with the markings MK Engineers on the outside of the crate.  Is that the manufacturer?  Anybody know anything about them???

Thanks!

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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #138 on: November 27, 2009, 01:46:40 AM »
Send them back Eric those are clearly not your initials
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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #139 on: December 01, 2009, 03:38:26 PM »
MK Engineers is an exporter and point of contact for many supposed "Brands" in India. They generally do a fine job of weeding out substandard stuff but beware too many assumptions and notions of the word "manufacturer". Cottage Industry in India is the method of production for all the Lister clone engines and their networks are an amazing study - but responsibility is not generally held (nor is it accepted) by any one entity. The best you can hope for is a reasonable assembler who can provide consistent results. These are generally NOT the exporters or companies you will be dealing with as an outsider. We have struggled with several over time to get transparency and accurate information and also have traveled there in person to set up relationships. The Indian business model we are dealing with does not necessarily include the Western values of integrity and honesty, I hate to say it. The best we have been able to do is factor in a lot of spare parts for our own warranty service and hammer away at the problems as they arise. These machines still offer a huge value and simply need to be doctored a bit to come up to Western standards.

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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #140 on: December 01, 2009, 08:38:33 PM »
Point of contension Gary:

There is nothing Cottage about some of the companies you are refering too.
Fieldmarshal is quite large for example and KOEL is large enough to have joint ventures with Toyota, Duetz, Petter, and has even managed to contain and start to push CAT out of the Indian market for industrial engines.

Ya man KOEL is so non Cottage they have been here in the North American market since the 70s. Why you guys never tried to import some of their engines ( listeroids and Petteroids ) is hard to understand I managed to get them to talk to me abou the HA series and FL912.....
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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #141 on: May 30, 2010, 07:29:16 PM »
Sir ,
    Guys how many of you have a field marshal .according To Me They are the largest guys for lister
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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2011, 05:50:19 AM »
I have never joined a forum of any kind before but I was wondering if any of you have ever heard of the "Dev" brand. The build all kinds of engine parts and he says he builds complete CS engines. Long story short,6/1's dropped in Vancouver for 700 ea. I took a chance and he says they are ready to ship and he has been keeping me upddated,guess we'll see. Thanks,Bill

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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2011, 07:09:55 PM »
We now have a handful of the KOEL (Kirloskar) brand available... will resell, but this may well be the one and only batch we can get in the USA. These are near 20 years old - have been in temperature controlled storage for all this time.

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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #144 on: July 13, 2011, 07:16:34 PM »
And, by the way, being a huge conglomerate (KOEL) does not mean they make all their own parts or do not participate in the cottage industry I described to source same.

I believe they will operate just like Lister/Petter, and never tell! Trade secrets and all that! This is what I am told by some of the insiders in India. It is all about making the quick $.

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Re: The Brand Roundup
« Reply #145 on: July 14, 2011, 05:29:19 AM »
Amabir, my first listeroid is a Field Marshall 6/1, I also have a Metro 6/1 (for standby), the FM has given me great service. Mike