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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 11, 2024, 12:17:28 PM »Sorry, third photo not related to generator head, part of the dynamo wiring loom.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 11, 2024, 12:13:02 PM »G`day everyone, today I degrased the PJ2 and rubbed down all the loose flaking paint and it now has a new coat of red oxide primer. No photos as my camera had a flat battery. will take some shots in the morning.
I also had the time to check out the generator head. This has seen very little use judging by the wear on the slip rings( no ridges). This is a transformer fed generator with 6 power diodes feeding the field windings. All of the windings and diodes show continuity with a multimeter and the transformers also tested ok. So this unit will be stripped, cleaned, bearings will be greased or replaced, bearing seals will be replaced. The armature will be cleaned and have two coats of polyurethane varnish to the windings and the slip rings will get a clean.
I will remove the four field winding coils and they will also be cleaned and have two coats of polyurethane varnish.
I will need to replace all of the radio frequency suppression capacitors as they are all blown to pieces.
Photos attached
Bob
I also had the time to check out the generator head. This has seen very little use judging by the wear on the slip rings( no ridges). This is a transformer fed generator with 6 power diodes feeding the field windings. All of the windings and diodes show continuity with a multimeter and the transformers also tested ok. So this unit will be stripped, cleaned, bearings will be greased or replaced, bearing seals will be replaced. The armature will be cleaned and have two coats of polyurethane varnish to the windings and the slip rings will get a clean.
I will remove the four field winding coils and they will also be cleaned and have two coats of polyurethane varnish.
I will need to replace all of the radio frequency suppression capacitors as they are all blown to pieces.
Photos attached
Bob
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Listeroid Engines / Re: 16-2 Fuel Pumps
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 11, 2024, 10:33:36 AM »Hi Dan, is the rack fully open? Normally the rack is fully closed when it is pulled to the left and fully open when pushed to the right, if the rack is closed it turns off the fuel and you will get no spill from the top of the injector pump. Bryce injector pumps have a bleed screw near the top of the injector pump, i`m not so sure about the Indian Mico injector pumps, if there is a bleed screw bleed it till it runs free of air bubbles and try again.
Bob
Bob
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Listeroid Engines / 16-2 Fuel Pumps
« Last post by listerclone on April 11, 2024, 03:53:16 AM »Hi, I am having trouble getting the fuel pumps to work on this 16-2 Listeroid. They are both installed and the fuel feed is solid. If I loosen a banjo bolts lots of fuel leaks out. I have the fuel lines to the injectors removed so the pumps are open on top. When spinning the engine by hand (w/decompression) I can see the camshaft followers moving up and down and they are operating the fuel pump plungers. There is no fuel coming out of either pump. I have taken one of the pumps apart and it looks like new inside.
Any Ideas? Dan
Any Ideas? Dan
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 10, 2024, 08:20:47 AM »G`day everyone. Not a bad days work, the PJ2 has been stripped down as far as I am going to go, no significant problems were found except for a lot of perished rubber/neoprene seals, these will all be replaced. There was a lot of detritus between the cylinder cooling vanes, largely mud wasps nests, mouse sh1t, leaves and dead spiders; degreaser, a wire brush and a pressure washer has got rid of the problem.
I hate working on British machinery of this vintage, late seventies thru early eighties. Britain was going through metrication so this thing has UNC, UNF and Metric nuts and bolts, two sets of spanners and 2 socket sets required. spent half the day trying to find the right tools for the job. A few nuts had to be removed with an adjustable spanner, not 1/2" nor 9/16" , 13mm too small and a 14mm spanner is too big, I`m thinking they may be old Whitworth sizes.
Another worrying issue is that most of the nuts and bolts were little more than finger tight, according to the hour meter this engine has done less than 100 hours from new and the service manual does stipulate checking for tightness at it`s first service at 250 hours. I guess that it has never had that first service and that a lot of the gaskets have shrunk over the last 40 years.
I`ll start ordering the bits needed tomorrow. I`m still looking for advice about replacing the plastic seals on the pushrod tubes.
A couple of pics attached.
Bob
I hate working on British machinery of this vintage, late seventies thru early eighties. Britain was going through metrication so this thing has UNC, UNF and Metric nuts and bolts, two sets of spanners and 2 socket sets required. spent half the day trying to find the right tools for the job. A few nuts had to be removed with an adjustable spanner, not 1/2" nor 9/16" , 13mm too small and a 14mm spanner is too big, I`m thinking they may be old Whitworth sizes.
Another worrying issue is that most of the nuts and bolts were little more than finger tight, according to the hour meter this engine has done less than 100 hours from new and the service manual does stipulate checking for tightness at it`s first service at 250 hours. I guess that it has never had that first service and that a lot of the gaskets have shrunk over the last 40 years.
I`ll start ordering the bits needed tomorrow. I`m still looking for advice about replacing the plastic seals on the pushrod tubes.
A couple of pics attached.
Bob
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Help Needed on a lister brush set (wiring diag E1184855)
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 09, 2024, 11:04:16 PM »Hello again Ernie, just a thought on where to get a wiring diagram. Try sending a personal message to DieselGman, you should find him in the members list at the top of the page. He has a very extensive diesel generator library. He is running a business but his prices are very reasonable.
Bob
Bob
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Help Needed on a lister brush set (wiring diag E1184855)
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 09, 2024, 10:51:23 PM »Very nice work Ernie. I can`t help you with a wiring diagram, I have only ever worked on single phase Brush generator heads.
Bob
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Help Needed on a lister brush set (wiring diag E1184855)
« Last post by Ernie on April 09, 2024, 09:52:04 PM »Last Saterdag i received the new rectifiers.
Mounted on the existing holes with M4 bolts
Still hoping that someone has the wireing diagram ore an example 3 fase and N (4 slip-rings) send me an email and i give you my mobile number you can whats app the drawing by making an photo.
Ernie
Mounted on the existing holes with M4 bolts
Still hoping that someone has the wireing diagram ore an example 3 fase and N (4 slip-rings) send me an email and i give you my mobile number you can whats app the drawing by making an photo.
Ernie
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« Last post by ajaffa1 on April 09, 2024, 09:36:11 AM »G`Day from down under, there has been some progress on my generators. The PJ2 generator has been dismounted from the trailer and broken down into its component parts. The generator chassis has been stripped, painted, shimmed level and bolted to it`s concrete base.
The old CS has been brought out of the shipping container, where it has sat for 2 1/2 years. It has been leveled and bolted to It`s new concrete slab and it has been grouted in place with a 1 to 1 fine sand/cement grout. I will have to wet the grout every day for a week to ensure it hardens properly. I hope this will be the last time I have to move the CS as I am definitely getting too old for this sh1t!
I also managed to remove the flywheel from the PJ2, should make it a lot lighter and easier to handle.
Couple of photos attached.
Bob
The old CS has been brought out of the shipping container, where it has sat for 2 1/2 years. It has been leveled and bolted to It`s new concrete slab and it has been grouted in place with a 1 to 1 fine sand/cement grout. I will have to wet the grout every day for a week to ensure it hardens properly. I hope this will be the last time I have to move the CS as I am definitely getting too old for this sh1t!
I also managed to remove the flywheel from the PJ2, should make it a lot lighter and easier to handle.
Couple of photos attached.
Bob
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Things I want to Buy / Re: Lister CE fuel pump required
« Last post by BruceV on April 09, 2024, 05:07:27 AM »Thanks Bob
Yes he was my first contact and Thank you
Yes he was my first contact and Thank you