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Lister Based Generators / Re: Drive belt tensioner
« on: October 21, 2008, 07:11:05 AM »
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but all the talk of belt chirping and light flickering makes me wonder if the generators on these slow speed diesels would benefit from a "decoupler" or clutch pulley. Years ago I started seeing pulleys on automotive alternators that behaved like a sprag clutch on a starter drive allowing the alternator to freewheel when its speed or momentum was greater than the belt speed. I originally assumed that because it was on a diesel engine that it was only used to keep the alternator and/or belt from being damaged or chirping from the sudden engine stops. I have since seen them on gas powered engines also, notably on Chryslers where they start to make noise for a few seconds after shutdown. The link explains how they cut down on belt slippage.

http://www.tendeco.com/website/decouplers/decouplers_func.html


Notice in the beginning and end that the mass(behind the driven pulley with arrow on it) freewheels when the drive pulley slows or stops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXWvVwmthM 

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Generators / Re: What to expect?
« on: October 19, 2008, 02:32:08 PM »
Never mind the balance question, I found it here http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=3480

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Generators / Re: What to expect?
« on: October 19, 2008, 07:32:43 AM »
 Had it running on the frame today with gen head, almost there!  I purchased a Killawatt off  ebay so I know what most of my 110 stuff uses, it was fun and surprising to see what these things use for power. I have mostly all CFLs. The microwave draws about 1600 watts, I read here a few times that microwaves could be a problem, I would think that 1600 watts is 1600 watts. An amp clamp and some math would tell me about the 220 stuff or I could just turn them on under gen power and see what happens and pray nothing burns up. I was looking for some real world results to compare to.

A boiler heats my domestic hot water plus I have a pellet stove also. My cheap and very annoying 10hp Coleman Powermate5000 seems to handle these 110 loads pretty easily, but with a real bad load on load off engine surge( typical). I never tried anything 220 with it or the microwave. I'm assuming and hoping that the 6/1 will be as good or better. May try the dryer set on low, would just take longer. Thats if low runs on less elements and not just shorter cycle times.

I have a dehumidifier in the basement that could keep the 6/1 pretty well loaded when not using other high loads. We keep the dehumidifier set low now to keep the electric bill down.

Tom, did you use your dryer with generator power?

Assuming your not overloading a leg can you tell when your unbalanced? If I were using 20 amps on one leg and 3 on the other does the gen sound different, vibrate or surge? Ronmar, the transformer sounds like a good idea. Now if you had no 220 loads and the ST was rewired parallel would that take care of the balance and flicker issues?

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Generators / What to expect?
« on: October 17, 2008, 12:21:13 PM »
Hopefully by next week my 6-1 ST5 genset will be finished (I know! it will never be finished) What can I really expect to run or not to run with this? My biggest loads would probably be a big microwave, electric stove, large capacity clothes dryer and submersed well pump. I will be running pretty much everything for fuel wmo, wvo, biodiesel.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: First post
« on: September 18, 2008, 04:33:11 AM »
Welcome No spark!

About 1 month after I stumbled across Rocketboy's video of his Listeroid twin on youtube I had a Metro 6/1 sitting in the center of my checker board garage floor  ;D

You will find a video of it running on youtube somewhere under "Aaron" via a myspace video

It is a enjoyable fun/practical engine that you get to do some R&R/ TLC to. I find the metro 6/1 very relaxing to listen to and work on.

Hey Horsefly, saw your videos, Nice! You obviously wasted no time fueling and starting that thing up(still on the pallet on the trailer). Is this in a garage that's attached to your home? LOL at the "tree hugger" comment.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine mounting
« on: September 15, 2008, 06:29:53 AM »
I was thinking that hard epoxy products might break up from the vibration. I'll just mount it metal to metal only. Thanks.

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Listeroid Engines / Engine mounting
« on: September 15, 2008, 06:10:19 AM »
I plan on mounting my 6/1 to a frame made of 8" I-beam and was thinking of putting some urethane caulk (the stuff for car windshields) between the engine and frame. I figure it might fill in any voids in the casting for support and give a little cushioning. There would still be some metal to metal contact of course. Any opinions?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: First post
« on: September 15, 2008, 05:43:00 AM »
To be honest I was hoping the engine would have looked like a piece of !@#$ so as to give me a good reason to tear it down immediately, I know what lies beneath that thick green paint and there are some obvious issues but it just looks better than I had expected. I think once I get it mounted and run it for a little while I'll be more content to tear it apart and give it a good going over and maybe paint the inside of the case. The outside paint job is so thick I can't imagine oil coming through it. I live in the middle part of the state known for its lobsters and its already feeling like winter. Yes, I've  been to Utterpower many times and I plan on getting the CD.

Speaking of magnets, in my engine there is already a magnet mounted to the end of the pickup screen in the sump that goes to the oil pump. I think that is a pretty good detail.

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Listeroid Engines / First post
« on: September 14, 2008, 04:20:01 PM »
Hello, I am the proud owner of a new Listeroid sitting in the middle of my garage floor. Its a 6/1 Powerline by Anand I'm hoping to generate power and have fun with. I'm waiting for a price on an ST gen head. Hard to believe I just learned of these engines 6 or 7 weeks ago on YouTube. I was searching alternative fuels and stumbled upon a video of a man I believe in England who was showing off this interesting engine/generator he was running on WVO in a shed behind his house, think he had a laptop graphing its heat output or something. I googled the name of the engine and the rest is history. He could be a member of this forum, if he is, my wife thanks him ;). I have since watched many videos and read many posts on these engines. Ive got a bunch of newbish questions and hopefully some good answers, ideas and opinions. Ive been a mechanic for over twenty years.

Newbie Question #1: The inside of the crankcase is very clean, I wiped around it with a rag.(its already been "Tested" by Powerline) Someone did a pretty good job with a die grinder making the inside smooth but it isn't painted or sealed and has almost no rust. Is it necessary to paint or seal the inside of the case?

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