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Listeroid Engines / Re: "Kit engines".......where?
« on: December 03, 2006, 04:25:35 PM »
Quote from: Geno on December 01, 2006, 11:43:33 PM
It's a security thing to keep people from stealing the pics. Just view it with IE.

Bad suggestion.  There is no IE here, and IE is and historically has been the No. 1 transmission vector of Bad Things for PCs.  Implementing proprietary methods that work with a single user agent is a Bad Idea.

More of a "Go away, there's nothing here that I want you to see" thing.  Or an anti-security thing.

Quote from: Procustes
Are pictures harder to steal with IE than with other browsers?

Using the M$ vml thing somehow interacts with IE to prevent the right-mouse-click "Save Image" from being displayed.  IOW, you have to either do a screen capture to save the pic (not the best way) or do as I did and read the page's source code and then construct your own URL to the correct picture instead of the bogus all-black one.

I don't mind George not wanting his images used elsewhere -- it's his site, he can do whatever he wants -- but in doing so he's chosen a non-W3C method which makes it non-standards-compliant so those of us who don't use IE can't read see his/Quinn's pictures.  Which is just cutting your nose off to spite your face: if people can't read your site, why have a site?

IIRC, there's a java anti-theft solution for images that works with "all" browsers, but I'm sure that FrontPage won't hold your hand to implement it  ::)

Here are links to Quinn's (non-displaying-in-non-IE-user-agents) pictures from George's site.  But the pictures are a lot less useful without Quinn's accompanying text.  Someone should put the text and images on a web page so everyone can see them, this looks like an interesting article.  Oh, wait, that's what George thought he was doing . . .

http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image024.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image026.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image028.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image030.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image032.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image034.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image035.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image037.jpg
http://utterpower.com/kit_engine2_files/image038.jpg

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Listeroid Engines / Re: "Kit engines".......where?
« on: December 01, 2006, 07:29:44 AM »
Quote from: Quinnf on November 27, 2006, 08:17:25 PM
Try http://utterpower.com/kit_engines.htm

Someone should tell George that that page has a bunch of black squares where many of your pictures should be.  The problem is that his page is using xmlns (OK) and vml (not OK).  vml is Vector Markup Language and is pretty much -- AFAICT -- a M$/IE-only thing.  Even that's OK, because George's page is testing for vml support:


Code: [Select]
<!--[if gte vml 1]>
  <v:shape id="_x0000_s1049"
           type="#_x0000_t75"
           style='width:6in;height:489.75pt'
           fillcolor="window">
  <v:imagedata src="kit_engine2_files/image038.jpg" o:title="Protrusion"/>
  </v:shape>
<![endif]-->

<![if !vml]>
    <img border=0 width=576 height=653
         src="kit_engine2_files/image039.jpg"
         v:shapes="_x0000_s1049">
<![endif]>
[indention is mine, for readability]

The real, final problem is that if vml support is there, his page serves one picture (in the example above, "image038.jpg"), but if vml support is not present (say, Firefox or SeaMonkey browsers), George's page serves an entirely different image, one that renders as a plain, black square (in the example above, "image039.jpg).

Upshot is that I can't see Quinn's pics in the last half of the page, unless I go to extraordinary lengths -- there is not a Windoze box available here.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Idler gear failures
« on: November 21, 2006, 05:13:58 AM »
Let me throw a variable in: How much do the gears grow when they come up to operating temp -- is the expansion rate greater than that of the block?  Better factor that in to the minimum backlash.

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