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Aw, man! Ive been lmgtfyd! The shame!

Actually that was the manual Id already found. Its nice enough, but I was kind of hoping for something by a North American user with experience working on them. The only things which keep coming up when I search is sales sites in China, this manual, or that guy who had the bad luck with one. No juicy shots of teardowns and repairs at all.

So nobody on here finds this particular model even slightly interesting? Nothing to add at all? I mean hell, at least trash talk it a little bit! Im trying to throw you guys a bone here.

Not sure if this qualifies as a "slow-speed" issue, so I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

As you've all seen, I'm in a new phase of my Diesel addiction, and am apparently acquiring new (to me) metal.  I picked up a 12.5kVa generator with a two-cylinder Chinese 295d engine.

Before you ask, yes I did indeed find the number one Google search return when looking up Changchai 295d with 332 hours, and I fully realize that I might have picked up a lemon.  But since I knew it was a potential lemon I had got it for a very reasonable price.  If the motor craps out in the near future I'm still money ahead on the Stamford Newage gen head, is how I see it.

The radiator has some rust in it, as it was manufactured in 2002 and went to live in a prepper's garage for a decade and a half with no maintenance whatsoever.

At a bare minimum I'll be needing a new radiator cap, oil filter, and fuel filter, and that's just for starters.  Does anyone have a source for these items?

How about oil type?  Would Rotella be a good choice?  I'm still learning when a multi-grade oil is appropriate and when straight weight would be.  I've never found the definitive thread on that topic.

Also I'm looking for some documentation on the thing.  I found a PDF with the dimensions and capacities, but I was wondering if anyone had a repair manual hidden in their computers somewhere?

Thanks, all!

Nice find.  Anyone know which model this is?

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 04, 2018, 04:52:19 PM »
Bingo Stef!

I just need to make the right acquaintances with the proper resources at this point.  As you say, when you get right down to it parts is parts and it won't burn diesel unless it's put back together properly.

Half the fun of this new obsession is getting to bat around ideas with folks such as yourself, and the other half of the fun is knowing you old hands at this game are getting a kick out of watching the new guy fumble his way through.

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 04, 2018, 11:49:24 AM »
Ha! That's some solid advice there, Ed.  I'm afraid I've already done more than one thousand-mile journey to check out a machine - in this case it was a Hardinge HLV lathe which turned out to be a bit of a dud, but I brought it home anyway.  If it's me or the scrap heap, well I guess I'm a sucker for a hard case.  But as it turns out it's worth more in parts vs. a restoration.

I also tend to dive into new obsessions head first, and it's bitten me more than once...

Lastly, I think I might be driving Butch nuts with all my questions via email, but he's been more than kind in responding.  Thanks Butch!

Again, great group of diesel addicts you guys are curating here.  It's absolutely fun to read about all the adventures.

Edit - I should probably admit that I'm a long-suffering diesel addict.  It all began back on the dairy farm in the Northwoods of Wisconsin where I spent countless hours driving the old Farmall H and M (not diesels, of course...) and IH 966 and 1086.  There was also the John Deere 350 dozer with what I swear to god was a JD clone of a Yanmar 3-cylinder with the "Yanmar Hammer" in full bloom.  As they say you can take a boy off the farm but you can't take the farm out of the boy, so now I no longer live on a farm but I do have 20 acres of my own including three diesel tractors and a 2006 Chevy 2500HD with an LBZ Duramax diesel.  My wife is overly kind to me regarding my little obsessions, and reminds me that my toys will always be cheaper than trading her in on a younger model.

With all this said, this new Lister/Laidong obsession is really just part of my genetic disorder which attracts me to all things diesel.  Not that it causes me to suffer in the least.

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 04, 2018, 09:50:40 AM »
Doing some quick searching in Ireland and England is eye-opening.  It'd seem like the prudent thing to do if you really want an original condition SOM is to wait for your perfect machine to pop up on one of their sites, then buy and make a nice vacation out of it to arrange shipping in person.

There's just so many different directions to go.  I've had several folks contact me already offering some of their own original Lister excess project motors (thanks guys!), but to be honest I think I maybe should do my first learning how to fix on one of the clones so that if I mess something up (which is nearly inevitable) it won't be on something irreplaceable.  Then if that goes well start the search process anew for my "forever motor".

What do you think, gentlemen (and ladies if there are any)?  What's the best route for someone wanting to learn how to fix these things up?  Dive in head first, or just dip the toes in the pond until I learn how to swim?

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 03, 2018, 07:16:14 PM »
Thanks Hugh, I'll check out that site.  The Canada route has registered in my mind, but I honestly hadn't researched it thoroughly.  I'll be doing that over the next few days.  And of course I'm always open to checking out someone's kit.

It seems as though in the UK they're just laying around the countryside waiting for someone to scoop them up and give them a good home.  Sigh.

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 03, 2018, 02:08:05 PM »
Well Bob, if you point me in the right direction to pick up the scent, I'm tenacious like a bloodhound when searching for hidden treasures. And I'm not afraid of the import game as there's always a loophole to be found if you have the patience for the processing time.

Let me know, and I'll get right on it! I'd buy up an entire container full if I could only find them. But I gotta tell you it smells too good to be true...

Things I want to Buy / Re: Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 03, 2018, 02:37:48 AM »
Thanks guys,

I really appreciate the advice.  I've been to England twice and have thoroughly enjoyed my time there.  Next time I go I will definitely be looking for original Lister iron.  Any recommendations about where to begin the search?  The import game is another matter, probably best handled after actually acquiring the prize.

Start-O-Matic.  Yeah, I'd pretty much kill for one of those.  But who on this forum wouldn't?  Has anyone "rolled their own"?  I've done quite a bit of searching on the subject, but haven't found the magic thread or video yet.

Australia is also beautiful and fascinating.  We were there in 2015, flew into Sydney and spent 4 days there before getting on a cruise ship and hitting Melbourne and Tasmania before crossing over to New Zealand.  If my wife and I didn't still have to work, I think we would have preferred to just stay in NZ for the remainder of our days.  Amazing place.

Things I want to Buy / Newbie in search of first engine
« on: June 02, 2018, 09:10:00 PM »
Greetings, all!

I'm a recently infected Lister newb wanting to find my first engine.  I was in contact with Sid here in Atlanta regarding his posts that he was ready to sell his Listeroid and Petteroid.  As it turns out, after meeting the man I understand that he has recently obtained a fresh lease on life, and only a monster would ask him to give up his man toys when he clearly doesn't want to or need to at this particular moment in his life.

I should add that I'm in contact with 38ac, and if no engines are available I'll be buying one from him and having him work his magic on it.  Not afraid to pay a man with his skill set demonstrated so aptly on this forum.  But naturally, being a gearhead myself I would love to take a swing at fixing one up myself and so I'm also at odds with myself on this conflict of interest.

So, I'm looking for either a running engine or a non-running collection of parts.  I'm perhaps more mechanically skilled than our national average, but by no means am I a rocket scientist.  Avid home gamer with a nice collection of machine shop toys including lathes and mills, and even an old Steptoe-Western 24" shaper.  An engine I could get back into shape using those tools would be right up my alley.

Proximity to Atlanta, GA has to be considered, although for a true original Lister (or even one Butch has worked his magic on) my range for a road trip pretty much includes all of North America.  Yeah, the bug bit me pretty hard all right.

Also, I have sold this idea of an indestructible engine with excellent fuel economy on the basis of promising an emergency backup generator for the house, so if it would have a generator head setup included well hey, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to spending time on this forum.  It seems like you have a great group of users who focus on helping each other rather than trying to scare off the new guys.  Well done to you.

As a closing thought, I'm also utterly fascinated by the Chinese horizontal diesels in a morbid way.  They're just so industrial raw and beefy, at some point I'd like to possess one of those as well and make a genset out of it.  If anyone needs to find a new home for theirs, please let me know.  I am already in touch with Tom up in New England about a brand-new 1115, but $1500 might be a touch high for me to swing by my wife.  I'm sure you all understand that predicament.

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