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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: New engine and parts from India
« on: January 07, 2019, 01:20:17 AM »
Ok here the update,

I've been busy with my new garage put a 65m2 atic in it and now slowly moving my stuff overthere. Most of my engines are allready there. The 16-2 is a bit heavy for the old trailer and I was really anxious to have a look inside...
So took the heads of with the watercooled injectors, didn,t open that yet, and had a look inside the cilinder. Could clearly see where the piston rings been sitting for years explaines why the guy filled the engine with oil to get some compression. So far so good.
Took the first piston out, big end bearing worn out pretty much, Thats a funny piston.......... especially the scraper ring tsss...
Ok next block.. I could not get the piston out...the big end is bigger than the bore of the liner... Took them of together. On the crankshaft you can see the imprint of the bearings this engine has been sitting for  many years.

So on one cilinder a piston with a scraper ring that has enourmous play, you can almost fit two, the other piston they left it out. I have the feeling it's a prehistoric cs piston that didn't use scraper rings ?. I have two different piston rods with one not passing the bore.

At least the crankshaft looks in a reasonable shape, 2 flywheels. Should be able to build something out of this.

If somebody has ideas about the pictures and the parts I really like to hear the opinions and ideas.

Greaatings Bernhard



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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: New engine and parts from India
« on: January 07, 2019, 12:41:19 AM »
16-2 magnetic piston update.

I need to trim the engine down for weight a bit to move it to my new location and I am curious what to find......first some pictures...

Bernhard

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Everything else / Re: Finally, some use for excess solar power.
« on: December 10, 2018, 06:09:18 PM »
Hey glort why don't you start mining altcoins with free electricity it's still profitable..

Bernhard

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Generators / Re: Remote stop
« on: November 20, 2018, 10:33:42 PM »
On the start o matic lister cs there is a resistor connected to the sollenoid to reduce the amps going to the coil when it's running, works with a switch thats being pushed by the fuel linkage.

Also with a multimeter you can see on witch wires you got reading and witch on not. and the start o matic was 24v.

just an idea

bernhard

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Listeroid Engines / Re: field marshal with gas connection
« on: October 26, 2018, 02:14:10 AM »
Thanks for that I was just correcting my lazyness by posting the wiki of both.
Propane is a popular choice for barbecues and portable stoves because the low boiling point of −42 °C (−44 °F) makes it vaporize as soon as it is released from its pressurized container. Therefore, no carburetor or other vaporizing device is required; a simple metering nozzle suffices

butane
Boiling point   −1 to 1 °C; 30 to 34 °F; 272 to 274 K

Bernhard

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Listeroid Engines / Re: field marshal with gas connection
« on: October 26, 2018, 01:49:54 AM »
Hey glort I knew you would dive in, the gas thing was just out of interest and the fact when I store my boat in winter I need to take the bottle out for insurance reasons.  So engine + bottle....

If I would use the bottle sometimes I would use a torch on the bottle to get the gas out, it would freeze.  (sounds more dramatic then it is). Not bullshitting propane and butane have verry different boiling points, to lazy to look it up again but butane beeing someting like 10 degr celcius. So if in cold weather your draining the bottle....Thats why in summer you have a load more butane like 30%. You can find it somewhere on internet.
But the last bit of the bottle was not nice to run it really started to knock badly.

With the natural gas the economic reason is not there in my case almost same price, but I used it and it worked only I should increase flow, was like 10 % of the load.



I know one point your very keen on the water injection, if you burn fuel you got a lot of water aswell  hydrocarbons...with gas I believe its even more. I was condensing the exhaust gas so I already got liters of water draining from the heatexchanger and when the boiler reached it's temperature the condensing would happen somewhere further down the line making a mess.
I'll promise that when I start the plant up again I will give it a try with extra water but for the exhaustgas heat exchanger I do not see the advantage (yet). Promise one day I will try.

For the last years I put to much time in my chp plant I need to catch up with some other stuff I still work and just bought some garage that I am busy with.I love this stuff so it will start again.
Bernhard

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Listeroid Engines / Re: field marshal with gas connection
« on: October 25, 2018, 10:50:51 PM »
My experiance with NG propane and liquid petrolium gas LPG, I started with LPG that I used on my boat for cooking, it's a mix of propane and butane, the propane boils of first from the bottle and your left with butane wich self egnites in the compresion so your "dieselknock"will be a lot louder. Propane is a dream aswell as natural gas. It has high properties.

I put a lot of googeling time into it before I first tried, I even read articals that in the us they use it in trucks as bifuel to increase power and better fuel economics. Most of the stuff I allready forgot again but I remember it was clear green light.
Only like I said butane, in winter time in Holland they incease the amount of propane in lpg because of the difference of boiling points of the gasses so maybe then it's ok to use it in a diesel.
As I remeber there are even companies in europe holland that can install it in a diesel car for an increase of fuel economy.

I never automated the gas supply so I did not dare to leave it alone, but for sure it worked.I just used it when I was near the engine and whenever I left just close the tap and it would run on wvo the rest of the time. My intention was for a cleaner burning so my exhaust gas cooler would not faul so fast and a lack of supply of wvo was looking for an alternative.

Bernhard

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Listeroid Engines / field marshal with gas connection
« on: October 21, 2018, 11:19:34 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReu9PuP4yQ

actually i tried it myself works perfect..

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General Discussion / Re: feed in tariff
« on: October 21, 2018, 05:59:32 PM »
I think the different in amps is hidden in the voltage australia 220/240 and us 110. So you need half the amps to get the same power.

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General Discussion / Re: feed in tariff
« on: October 21, 2018, 01:21:48 AM »
Hey glort, around here all the houses have in principle 3 fase, If you have one fase you just use one fase the nabours the other etc. Nowadays all new houses have standart three fase.
And I have seen a video of a guy feeding back with a three fase motor succesfully but I don't think it lasted very long.
If you have three fases it's the cheapest and easiest way to feed back.

gr bernhard

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General Discussion / Re: feed in tariff
« on: October 20, 2018, 11:49:10 PM »
I  don't know about the UK, but here in Holland I have solar panels so they expect me to feed back. I have a 3 fase MOTOR hooked up to the lister and it feeds back with minimum losses. And itīs save if the grid is gone the field is gone so no power.
Until now you can feed back what you use and get the full price deduction from your bill if you feed back more... itīs just pennys.
I even use the motor to start the lister.

Never understood why they were rectifieing and than feed it to a solar/wind sunnyboy/windy boy so much losses.

Greetings Bernhard

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General Discussion / Re: heat exchanger
« on: October 17, 2018, 08:55:54 PM »
Good answer from glort, the one you propose on ebay is for a woodstove not really suitable. Some people use swimming pool heaters if you can get one cheap give it a try.

AT the moment i am using a old oil cooler with brass pipes inside, it works super and condensates the exhaust gasses. Only thing it clogs up with soot. And it's a ..... to clean.

Next plan, if I ever have time, is to install the inside of a condensing natural gas central heating boiler, it has a drain for the condens and it's sort of made for it.

Greetings Bernhard

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Engines / Re: Turned out that my Lister wasn't ST2 :-)
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:27:37 PM »
Ok made a mistake leave the engine but take out the injector... sorry

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Engines / Re: Turned out that my Lister wasn't ST2 :-)
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:25:18 PM »
The way you describe it seems to me like a stuck injector tip.If you take it out the engine connect it to the fuel line again and turn the engine over you can see a spray and a sqeak noice. If it is pissing fuel thatīs your cause. Even if you turn it over with the injector inside you should here the injector.

But I like your set up look super neat, and especially clean. Really nice,

Bernhard

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: New engine and parts from India
« on: October 13, 2018, 12:09:31 AM »
Hey hello, I meant you have like an add on for your highpressure cleaner so you suc up grid and blast it with the water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y9sXOe8Rz4

At least it doesn't give the mess.

I spend a lot of time with my VA to get it in  a ready to paint state. I didn't think about it at that time..

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