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Original Lister Cs Engines / Four old CSs sold
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:19:54 PM »
Just a note of potential interest

I always think what someone will pay at auction is the real indicator of value of an item - regardless of red herrings such as the "asking" price of similar items or the seller's aspirations or illusions

So some chap here just sold four old CS in various states at "$1 reserve" actions.

These are the results:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1723681860&archive=1

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1723686310&archive=1

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1723684717&archive=1

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1723678391&archive=1

Cheers

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Original Lister Cs Engines / actual value of a 3HP CS
« on: August 05, 2018, 10:53:14 AM »
https://www.trademe.co.nz/business-farming-industry/other/listing-1723678391.htm?rsqid=2bad00ef3bc44436b9b3f78698973e9c

Will be fascinated to watch this auction - he has maybe four CSs all on a $1 reserve auction

I always think a cash-sale auction is the way to gauge the ACTUAL value of an object as opposed to the percieved value

Will watch with interest

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General Discussion / Inverters
« on: July 31, 2018, 08:47:42 AM »

Hi Guys

I know folks on here love to share their experience, and I'm interested in improving my thinking on inverters . . .

Firstly let me say I have been re-reading Starfire's excellent post and subsequent responses.  See link below:

http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=7460.msg84365#msg84365

I'm a big KISS fan.  I used to enjoy having cars with points ignitions and carburettors cos I could see how everything worked and diagnose a fault in 5 mins flat - but I have gotten over that particular Ludditery and these days have a couple of $1000 2.2-litre Toyota Camrys as they are the philosophical equivalent and may well outlast me

I'd like to own an inverter like the Camry - tough, simple, good, over-engineered and under-stressed . . .

The gentleman who has been advising me on solar stuff - and whose advice I have found to be good - suggests that the modern combination of inverter & charge controllers are the "way to go"

He is recommending this unit:

https://www.victronenergy.com/inverter-charger-mppt/easysolar

But I could just as easily buy whatever I can find that is a super-robust charge-controller and do things like managing charging/voltage myself, and maybe run two or three small inverters

Typically my households use bugger-all current as I tend not to have anything with an electric element apart from an electric blanket and a small toaster.  My norm/current setup is: solar hot water, woodstove, wetback, gas hob, low-output microwave, spring-fed water so no pumps etc etc - a familiar picture I am sure

I am attracted to the Outback inverters

I have a couple of 230V gen heads as works-in-progress and hope to be in a situation where one or other of the two CSs can be either putting 24VDC back into a battery bank and/or generating a few kWs AC if I need to run the small welder or the angle grinder

I'd be interested on thoughts on inverters and on modern complex/sophisticated equipment like the Victron units vs something heavy and simple with a big copper transformer and a steel frame and two big handles kind-of-setup

I have a couple of quiet, (one genuine Honda, one cheap Chinese) 2.4 kW generators with 15-litre tanks that can idle inaudibly all night if need be, plus a big 5kVA genset that can run the fast-acting 3.6kW 60-litre hot-water cylinder as a convenience if the sun isn't shining, the fire hasn't been going and herself wants a shower NOW . . . so no real need for a big-current inverter.  If I had just one unit (instead of a few small ones) it'd be a 1500/2000W job, I would say

I don't reckon I give a rat's about pure sine either.  Everything I own seems to run OK on a dirty square wave with a few corners clipped off and, in my luddite-ish way I figure cos the laptop runs off of a 19.5V (DC I assume) charger thingie, it probably doesn't care if the VAC going into it is a bit dirty?  Since I am blessed to not own a TV I don't care about that either

I might put a search on TradeMe (think ebay/gumtree) for small inverters and get an idea of what sells for what $$

Enough from me - this is turning into a Glort-length rant

I'd appreciate any thoughts

Cheers, Mike

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Original Lister Cs Engines / 6/1 and 3.5/1
« on: July 28, 2018, 06:41:54 AM »


Hey there experts & knowledgeable folks . . .

I have a couple of 6/1s, but also the bottom end of a 3.5/1 in the yard as well (I gave the barrel and heads to some bloke for his one)

The 3.5/1 piston is a bit lighter, I guess, so maybe the counter-weights on the wheels are different - does anyone have any experience around the interchangeability or otherwise of these, I wonder?

What started this train of thought is that the mains are probably the same bolt-hole pattern so the case could be a donor "spare", cleaner-upper for one of my 6/1s

Then I started wondering about the crank . . . am I right in thinking maybe there were two sizes journals of 3/1 big-ends and maybe (a later?) one is the same dimension as the 6/1?  Or maybe that's wishful thinking?  What excited me there is one of my 6/1s has buggered Gib keys with the heads snapped-off and is going to be challenging one day; but the 3/1 bottom end has good-looking keyways and gibs

Apart from all that, it seemed to me that if you took the 3/1 wheels off and put them on an axle in a pair of rollers and cut off the balance weights carefully until they were "neutral" balance-wise; you could just about run two flywheels on both sides of one of the 6/1s as an experiment in rotating-mass and anti-flickering and stuff like that?  (After all, the one with the buggered gib keys is never going to want to yield its flywheels so I could trim what little is left of the heads of the gibs back to nothing without being any worse off - and snug-up another pair of flywheels

Just an idle thought-train of a cold Saturday evening with the fire going and peace-and-quiet here to allow the brain to wander . . .

Cheers

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Lister Based Generators / micro-vee PK pulleys
« on: July 26, 2018, 10:12:42 PM »


Here you go Glort

I forget how people got onto the subject of micro-vee pulleys, but this is the driven pulley for my 3000 RPM head off the 24” wheel of the CS (should run no-load 3150 at 580 engine RPM if my count-on-the-fingers is right)

It’s the aircon pulley off a big truck.  I went to the local truck wreckers with a pair of vernier callipers and checked out the pulleys on lots of engines until I found one close to perfect

There were lots of those 8PK pulleys of all sorts of diameters from 250mm downwards driving water pumps and power-steering pumps and some quite big-load sort of truck stuff

This one had a clutch in the centre as it was an aircon pulley and I cut that out and filed the stubs of the lugs out of the way

I just cut a bit of M16 plate into a circle, welded it onto the end of a bit of 40mm shaft, got the local machinist to turn it to 107mm to suit the I/D of the pulley and face-up the back of it square

Tacked the pulley in place using the thumbnail-ometer to get it flush and gave it a trial spin on the lathe to check it for true – it came up primo.

$80 for the pulley and $20 for the machinist

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Lister Based Generators / "Morrison-automatic" power generator
« on: July 23, 2018, 08:48:36 AM »
See two links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgLvYlPVXsI

and

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1703980492

I reckon they're a "thing" like a Lister SOM . . . check out the base and control box in the video

Reckon they might be an auto-start thingie too (maybe a motor/generator winding device?  Although the Briggs motor may have a starter motor?

Maybe 1500 RPM for 50Hz

I bet there are some folks out there who know what this is (or was) . . .

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Everything else / Stover engine
« on: July 18, 2018, 08:23:43 PM »
See link?

I had it in my mind for some reason that these old Stover engines might be historically significant in some way - I don't really know where that idea came from?

So I thought I'd just post a link to this one which is for sale - in case it is of interest

(I'd hate for someone to say, three months later. "Jeez, why didn't you mention it.  I'd swap my mother-in-law for one of these . . . ")

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1703507163&member_hash=a3a7566550fad4bdc4224f94f4401662016de7c29f5cc5555c&tm=email&et=46&mt=3CD2EA5F-6EC8-4299-AE88-E417DDE97A03

Cheers

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Lister Based Generators / start - o matic solenoids
« on: June 17, 2018, 07:40:27 PM »

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Lister Based Generators / 6Kw Markon
« on: June 12, 2018, 02:26:07 AM »

Found this little fellow on Trademe and paid $290 for it.  With a bit of luck someone wil give me $100 for the 16Hp Brigs and Stratton that was driving it

Looks to be a good mate for a CS 6/1

The dog-box and wiring and switches are all there, too, though not shown in pics _ un-wired them and took it off out of the way

I'd be interested in any thoughts or experience anyone has with these?  Thanks

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General Discussion / oil burners
« on: June 07, 2018, 09:11:01 AM »
Hi guys

We talked about this stove and related ones that other had built a while back

It's midwinter now and my friend and I just spent most of a week "camping" up at my workshop where the stove is

It was kinda zero degrees Centigrade overnight (frosty mornings) so we has the stove burning hard quite a lot.  My next job is to build it a flue damper as it's effectively an open fire in a heavy steel box right now and a chunk of heat goes up the chimney; plus I suspect it burns more wood than it needs to with an open flue.  I'm still gaining experience with the air flows around the beast

The wetback thermosiphon works as expected and it generates lots of hot water and the 32mm copper pipes are perfect for drying towels on.  I have been running hot water to waste just  to get rid of it and Lou has instructed me I have to take one shower out and fit a bath instead so she can exploit all the free hot water

It cooks well on the top too; and does that very satisfying thing where the kettle sits at a strategic spot that keeps it about two degrees below boiling and the moment you move it onto the hot area it boils instantly - I love those simple but good things

But I raise this topic again as I have been reading up on and watching videos about drip-feed waste-oil burners, as, in my industry I get hundreds of litres of very clean "heavy" "waste" oil - too heavy to use on any engine not designed for Bunker Oil but quite possibly useable in a drip-feed burner - especially with a pre-heat perhaps - and those burner units look like the sort of thing a resourceful chap could build/adapt inside the empty firebox space of my woodstove . . .

I wonder if anyone out there has played with them?

I want a no-moving-parts, no fan/burner model so that it's idiot-proof, safe and low-tech

I would be interested in any thoughts

Cheers

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