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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Molasses rust removal
« on: December 26, 2016, 09:14:36 AM »
We got marmots up here, trouble is, the squeaky little buggers hibernate around now, would Australian veggiemots do?

Is there a conversion app somewhere on the WWW?

Cheers Stef

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Introduction/ New project/ Questions
« on: December 24, 2016, 08:36:19 AM »
Hi All

I went down the 38ac route and boiled the bloody lot, crankcase and all, for 2 hours in a 40 gallon barrel, with 5 kilo's of caustic soda, over an open fire. The paint, crud, grit and everything else pressure washes off a treat.

Do it on a bit of waste ground 'cos it takes 9 months for the weeds to grow back and the other half to forget about it all when you kick it over to drag the crankcase out - obviously I learned the other way!

Cheers Stef

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Well said,

And a good festive season to all, whether it's now, or at some other point in some other calender!

Happy Christmas

Stef

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Hi Ed
+1, either for 'wheel reinvention', concept upcycling or plagiarism!

Back in my miss spent youth I learned to make something very similar whilst in the 'forces.

A 40 gallon (210l) drum was laid horizontally over a source of heat (open fire, kerosine burner, ect,) and sandbagged in to make an semi permanent arrangement.

the outlet was a short length of pipe screwed into one or other of the fittings and set at twelve o' clock, the other was sealed off.

The inlet was a hole punched into the 'side' of the drum, at the top, with a funnel in it.

Once it was filled with water and had started to boil the only way to get hot water out was to pour some cold water into the top, thus it would never boil dry. 

Known as a Lazyman Boiler!

Cheers
Stef

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Hi Ed

Don't know about the cost cutting exercise, but my original Lister has springs in the ball valves, who put them there I've no idea!

Cheers Stef

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Generators / Dynamo conversion
« on: December 12, 2016, 07:48:42 PM »
Hi All

There I was in the hot tub, letting the brain run along unattended, on the subject of using a Dynastart on the 6/1.

So, I've heard the theory that any motor should be capable of producing power, if you have a way of driving it, does this mean that the Lucas dynamo from my old tractor can be turned into a dynastart with relative ease?

Same rules apply to replies!

Cheers
Stef

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Generators / Re: Stamford Newage Alternator
« on: December 12, 2016, 07:22:15 PM »
Hi Gary

Thanks for that, spot on.

Thanks for another quick fix!

Cheers Stef

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Listeroid Engines / Re: possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 11, 2016, 09:40:31 PM »
It took me a while to figure this out, the drawing in my Lister parts manual only shows one bob weight, once I'd pulled it all to bits things became clearer.

Without the governor connected the fuel rack won't move - bear with me! - so if it's fully closed there's no fuel to the injector and it won't run, period.

With the rack fully open the machine will over fuel on start up and then rev until something lets go.

The governor holds the rack fully open with the bob weights against the camshaft, until there is enough centrifugal force to spin them outwards, pulling against the spring to allow the linkage to move, this movement CLOSES the rack.

Less tension, or a weaker spring, will allow movement at lower revs, thus reducing the maximum speed the governor will permit.

An increase in load, drawing more power from the generator, for example, will momentarily slow the engine, the bob weights will be drawn in towards the centre line of the camshaft, by the spring and the revs will increase until the bob weights and the spring reach a state of equilibrium and the revs remain more or less constant.

It was worth typing all this to use the word equilibrium!

Several members, the last was Ed Dee I think, use a very light spring pulling the rack to the closed position to eliminate the back lash from the 'sloppy' linkage, others have rebuilt the linkage with rose joints and some are, I believe experimenting with electronic control.

Hope that this helps, failing that, pull it to bits!

Cheers Stef


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Generators / Stamford Newage Alternator
« on: December 10, 2016, 04:16:07 PM »
Hi All

Having fitted my bargain alternator and found that it's working could any one point me in the direction of a manual, please? I've Googled hard and can't find anything.

It's a Stamford Newage with three 220v outlets that look like they run one from each phase.

The serial no is 04931 / 01 Type PC164A

It has volt and ammeter meters, would it pay me to fit a frequency meter as well or would it fail to stand up to the vibration? The control box is flexibly mounted  on top of the alternator.


Cheers Stef



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Listeroid Engines / Re: possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 10, 2016, 03:43:46 PM »
Butch,

No offence taken at all, when I was a nipper my Dad gave me a bollocking for dissing the bloke that swept the school hall after lunch. He said you should always listen, at the worst way at least you stand a chance of learning the most efficient way of sweeping the school hall.

I've been following the advice for the last 50 or so years. Keeping my trap shut has been harder!

Cheers Stef


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Listeroid Engines / Re: possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 10, 2016, 10:38:12 AM »
Yep, I asked, and I got!

Seriously, thanks for that Butch, when I rebuilt the Lister I did it without  torque wrench, feeler gauges or timking disc, in the belief that a bloke in a sheep shearing shed at the end of a 60 mile track would be doing it with whatever was available and a large portion of common sense. Just because I can have all the whistles and bells I like doesn't make them any more relevant that they were necessary 80 odd years back.

I'll stop trying to behave like the techno freak I'm not and content myself with fitting a dip stick in the oil filler cap!

Cheers Stef

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Listeroid Engines / Re: possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 09, 2016, 08:08:56 AM »


Oops, double posting!!

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Listeroid Engines / Re: possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 09, 2016, 08:05:09 AM »
Hi All

Slowly, very slowly, as other projects allow I'm working towards  the Start-o-matic type set up Glort proposes.

Perhaps not with all the automatic power distribution but certainly with the low oil level, over temperature/speed  and an automatic start and shut down set up.
Luckily I have a mate who's as keen as me, but far more electronically gifted, I do to PCB's what grit does to clockwork (Thanks Mr Pratchett) so the plumbing and wiring is down to me.

Having read of various solutions to oil level monitoring on here I'm thinking of a remote oil reservoir, with a free flow pipe between the sealed reservoir and the sump, the levels remaining the same, and the pressure over the oil balanced with another pipe from the top of the crank case, the whole issue connected with flexible pipes and mounted on a hinged plate with a light spring underneath.

As the oil level drops the decrease in weight would allow the remote reservoir to rise and close a micro switch shutting down the Lister via the control system. As long as there was sufficient mass to hold the reservoir firmly down, against the thumping, the first time it 'jumped' it should, in theory trip out.

As usual, all comments, input, advice and hoots of derision welcome!

Cheers Stef

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Just looked up pipe cleaners on Ebay, I thought they'd be a thing of the past, like skate boards, I can't believe the amount of different colours (USA readers delete the u as required)

And they're bloody cheap!

Cheers
Stef

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Hi All

A few years back I did a short trip on a Dutch barge, up the English channel, can't remember what the motor was but it was hot bulb ignition.

The guy running it used pipe cleaners to 'wick' the lube oil to various places, might be worth a thought.

Cheers Stef

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