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Engines / Re: Lister TS3 Fuel Spill Timing
« on: September 18, 2018, 11:42:05 AM »
Hi EdDee,

I got the pump timed, the manual is incorrect when it stated:

9. Ensure the fuel pump rack is in the run position by removing a cylinder fuel pump housing door & manually moving the fuel pump rack towards the gear end.

This is incorrect & the source of all my issues, the pump rack needs to be turned towards the flywheel end, this is the run position. Once I had discovered that, I had them timed perfectly. It was only an off chance I turned one that way out of desperation.


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Engines / Re: Lister TS3 Fuel Spill Timing
« on: September 10, 2018, 07:07:13 PM »
Thanks
Do you connect a pipe & have it bent at 90 deg away from pump so that spill is not going everywhere ?
Also should the fuel be spilling all the time (except at FP) or just during rotation ?

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Engines / Lister TS3 Fuel Spill Timing
« on: September 10, 2018, 10:44:57 AM »
Folks,

I have been trying & failing to time the pumps using the spill method. I just cannot get it to work. I am rebuilding the engine so I am using the original parts, The marks for TDC & FP on the flywheel are correct, I know this because I used TDC marks to set the valve head clearance on each piston. This is what I do:
1. Remove internal spring, seat & valve from body, re-tighten the body to pump being checked.
2. Push prime lever once to fill the pump, diesel wells out.
3. I bring the piston to TDC on ignition (power) stroke.
4. I go forwards revolution approx 2-3 inches, then start to go anti-clockwise until such time as the fuel starts to go back down into the valve.
5. When I lock at the flywheel FP mark at this point, the FP mark is at least a 1/4 rev past the arrow mark on the fan-shroud.

If I add a shim then it makes virtually no difference ( the page says 1 deg per .127mm shim). the difference is too large for a shim to correct. There is something fundamentally wrong.

I have tried this too many times & it never works out. Is there something that I am missing OR does anyone have a video on how to do it, I cannot find any relevant Lister videos on YouTube.

Does anybody know what is going wrong here or  has anybody got a video one their own engine ? Would appreciate any help.

thks
sean

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Engines / Re: TS3 Cylinder Head Refit
« on: August 11, 2018, 12:19:37 PM »
Thanks Men, got the shafts out & re-aligned via the threaded bar & oversized socked approach. By Joe there were well tight, a slow job. Anyhow, next question, the book says during refit the leaded wire used to measure the internal gap from piston to head should be 0.813-0.889 mm. This is measured by putting a piece of solder wire there & measuring after 2 revolutions.

If I dont use any gasket or shims I get a lead thickness of 0.8mm, is the figure in manual correct ?

During stripdown there was gaskets & shims present on all pistons, without shims & gaskets isn't the valve going to hit piston ?

Is the wire flattened by the piston against the valve or piston against the head ? I don't have the valve pushrods fitted to rockers during my measurements.
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Guys just to follow up on this, I have it sorted, I mis-read the intention of the manual, the solder wire is not placed at either end of the gudgeon pin end sides, it is placed 90deg opposite (put one of camshaft side, put other on exhaust manifold side, that way the pistons do not interfere with the wire during its compression. That way the gap is measured from piston top face to cylinder head face (google bump clearance). The gap as stated in manual IS correct. Also I used 0.5mm solder wire wrapped to look like a coil spring. Got consistent results with it.

I left my original questions there in case some other member comes with the same query. I'm learning all the time on the re-build

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Engines / Re: TS3 Cylinder Head Refit
« on: August 07, 2018, 09:41:31 PM »
How do i get shaft off? Is it a case of screwing in a bolt, catching bolt in vice and put a hammer to head or is there a more subtle way?

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Engines / Re: TS3 Cylinder Head Refit
« on: August 07, 2018, 09:07:11 PM »
Thanks for that jp2. I sent the heads away for new valves and that way they came back. How hard is it to realign that way ?

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Engines / TS3 Cylinder Head Refit
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:51:36 AM »
Folks,
First post on the forum & am delighted to find so much good stuff on it. I am in the process of rebuilding my TS3 Lister that is used on a dumper. The engine was tired & poor compression made me decide to give it an overhaul. So I have stripped it down, bought new barrels, pistons & cylinder head valves. Which leads to my question.

I have fitted one piston & barrell & when sliding down the cylinder head, the head would only go through the long posts about 3/4 in, the posts seem to be caught on the point where the 'circular disc' is, if I look down I can see the holes are not straight through, it seem to have a taper or kink where the item marked is. Is that feature a locking cam or something ? I was able to slide them up months ago & didn't take any notice of that until today.

Any ideas why there is a issue here ? Would appreciate any help.

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