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Petteroids / Re: PETTER - PAZ1 - New project
« on: Today at 10:52:40 AM »
Well done VP, I think your talents are wasted in the police force. If you are as committed as a policeman as you are as an engineer the criminal class are in deep trouble.

It is now six weeks since my Wife`s surgery and eight weeks since mine. I have been given the green light by my doctor and wife to start restoring engines again. I have ordered a whole lot of parts for the ETB and am hoping to have it running in August.

Just so you know, we sat up late last night and drank the Mateus Rose to celebrate my Daughters wedding, it was very good, not like the Mateus available in the UK. I guess you keep the good stuff for home consumption!  :laugh:

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: Today at 10:37:16 AM »
Glad you got one safely, looking forward to seeing what you find when you strip it. When are you picking up the 12/2?

Do you have a manual for the ST head? I think I have one somewhere.

Bob

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General Discussion / Re: Listers as art
« on: Today at 09:34:45 AM »
Hi Bruce, I`m very pleased to hear that you think the French have upped their game. I remember a ski chalet in Chatel, in France, where the main distribution board/fuse box was mounted in the shower cubicle about a foot above the shower head! I took my showers in an adjacent room, much safer!  :laugh:

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: 8-1 START-O-MATIC
« on: Today at 12:04:28 AM »
Nice work Listeroil. When I rebuilt my SOM the main line contactor relay coil was burned out, I found several DIN rail mounted motor starter relays that would be good replacements. Trouble was that they were all too tall to fit inside the original control panel so I chose to dismantle the original and rewind the solenoid coil, worked out OK.

In light of the drive towards miniaturizing everything, I wonder if the size of motor starter relays has shrunk.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 22, 2019, 09:10:59 AM »
Hi Dkmc, have a safe trip, looking forward to some photos of what you have got. Drive safely, it is always better to be late in this world than early in the next one, don`t forget what a valuable cargo you have.

Glad the manual was useful, can`t remember where I got it from but it was one of the kind guys on the LEF.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 21, 2019, 11:18:43 PM »
Someone posted this before, hope it helps

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: 8-1 START-O-MATIC
« on: June 21, 2019, 10:17:34 AM »
Hi Buryan, first question has to be what country do you live in?  I`m in Australia and would be happy to do the work just for fun, provided you pay for the materials/spares used. The problem with that could be the cost of shipping heavy components around the world.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 21, 2019, 06:19:34 AM »
Well done Dkmc, welcome to the learning curve. Please post some pictures of the work you are doing and what you find. What are you going to couple them to and how?

Please post any questions you have, Bruce is absolutely right about the fantastic information posted by 38ac on the wall of knowledge.

Best of luck and try not to put your back out moving the heavy pieces.

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: ST2 40 AMP FUSE
« on: June 21, 2019, 01:08:27 AM »
Hi Buryan, In another thread about building a SR2 start-o-matic generator setup, the blade fuse is shown in the top box. It is rated at 60 Amps. The SR2 is a less powerful engine than the ST2 and would require less cranking amps than yours.

When I first got mt ST2 the top box had a large piece of aluminium used as a replacement for the fuse, this probably explains the burned earth wiring in the bottom of the box! (see photo)

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Startomatic wiring advice
« on: June 19, 2019, 01:13:42 PM »
Hi Tony, it comes as no surprise that WORK is a four letter word! Your ambition of building an SOM  can wait until the next power outage.

Take good care,

Bob

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Changfa Engines / Re: New Watercooled Diesel Toys
« on: June 19, 2019, 11:34:01 AM »
Hi Glort, I have recovered very well from my surgery and should be starting some physio therapy next week. Narelle is just coming up to six weeks after her hysterectomy, she has been through hell but is just starting to come good, she still can`t drive or lift anything but we have been walking the dog together and things are looking good.

I`m planning to get back to the ETB rebuild next week, will make a big change from being nurse Bob!  :laugh:

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Startomatic wiring advice
« on: June 19, 2019, 11:13:38 AM »
Hi Tony, there are certainly some differences between your setup and mine. I have an ST2 and yours is an earlier SR2, The ST2 is a little more powerful but the SOM setup is very similar (please see the rather poor photocopied drawing attached). You have all the components of a full SOM so please study the drawing and come back to me with questions.

Just to help you, my advice is to work back from the load which could be as simple as a 40 watt light bulb. 12/24 volts flows though the light bulb signaling a load, this closes the relay contacts D1 on the drawing. This triggers the start up sequence and activates the fuel rack. As voltage starts to build up from the generator it energizes the decompression relay causing the engine to fire. Once the unit is generating power the main line contactor in the control panel becomes energized delivering power to the load and ending the start up sequence. The start up relay is now energized by a back EMF generated by the AC current running around the wire wound toroid, the back EMF is rectified to a dc voltage which keeps D1 energized. Once the load is removed there is no longer a rectified back EMF to keep D1 energized, this triggers shut down and removes power to the fuel control relay causing it to close and shut off fuel delivery. As the generator starts to slow, it produces less voltage until it no longer generates enough to hold open the 240 volt AC relay against the spring loaded decompression system thus holding the exhaust valves open awaiting the next start sequence.

This all sounds very complicated but it isn`t, they worked it out 70 years ago! I am only too happy to help with your project, send photos, resistance meter readings and advice.

Please ask what you like as long as it is not too personal

Bob

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Changfa Engines / Re: New Watercooled Diesel Toys
« on: June 19, 2019, 09:39:24 AM »
Hi Glort, it is very difficult for me to politely express how much I hate you right now. I have been looking for one of those for over two years with a budget of $1,000 and you score two for that price! Shame on you.  :laugh:

It will be very interesting to see how many alternators it takes to bog down these beauties. When are you planning to start your own power company so you can export all this power to the local community?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr Bob

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Petteroids / Re: PETTER - PAZ1 - New project
« on: June 19, 2019, 08:29:20 AM »
Well done VP, another piece of our heritage saved from the scrap man. Perhaps you should start crowd funding to build a museum to put all your restored engines in. The way you are going it will need to be a big museum!

Bob

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Engines / Re: Lister d timing
« on: June 19, 2019, 08:18:49 AM »
The bright spark turns out to be Cobbadog, no surprises there he is a very clued up individual.
I spoke to a friend of mine today about your poor spark problem. He tells me that the timing chain tension is set by fitting steel shims between the magneto and it`s mounting, these can corrode causing a poor earth between the magneto and the main body of the engine, this can cause a poor spark. Perhaps fitting an earth link between the magneto body and the engine body would help.

I recommend you follow the advice of Cobbadog and start testing things with a multi-meter, you should soon find the culprit.

Bob

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