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Generators / Re: Just passed electrical inspection
« on: February 26, 2009, 08:43:22 PM »
I'm not net metering as the system is not hooked to the grid other than by a transfer switch. I have philosophical differences with the whole net metering thing ;). The battery/inverter system is something I put together so I could conceivably go off the grid at times. While the generator is running, a battery charger is charging the battery bank of 10 6 volt golf cart batteries. The inverter is a Vector 3000 watt with 6000 watt surge. Eventually I want to upgrade to a Xantrex or Outback. The Vector draws a lot of juice just running itself. The system also uses a Xantrex C60 load controller to divert excess power to a glow plug water heater I put together. I have the capability of adding solar or wind to the battery bank in the future after my house is finished and I can get back in the shop.

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Generators / Just passed electrical inspection
« on: February 25, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »
I just got in the house from talking with the local inspector and I have very few details to finish my Listeroid generator system with a battery/inverter on the side. It's a 6/1 Metro with a ST5 head and GM serpentine belt. My Reliance transfer switch and sub panel will be able to support most of the critical circuits in the new home we're building and the battery/inverter system will be used to run some light circuits and a few outlets. The only issues were a bonding screw in my main panel and the ground wire was not yet terminated in my generator's disconnect switch. I also must run a ground wire from my generator panel in the house to my inverter panel. Everything was researched and I tried my best to meet all of the NEC requirements, I just needed the inspector to show me the finishing touches to get it blessed. It's quite a load off my mind after 1 1/2 years of research and hard work. A lot of the info came from this board, thanks.

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Everything else / Re: Interesting text books..........
« on: December 24, 2008, 05:41:35 PM »
If you are interested in old  but good information check out www.lindsaybks.com . Over the years I have purchased many of their books and they are great sources of information that applies to much of what we are doing here.

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Petersbpus, I have the almost identical setup, except I have the Reliance pro/tran 30310a switch. My Listeroid 6/1 powers it and last week I ran my critical loads through the swich while I moved my main panel as I'm building a new house designed around this setup. What I did was use a 100 amp subpanel with all of my critical loads that runs off my main 200 amp panel through a 50 amp breaker. The reliance panel was mounted next to this and ,as per the instructions, the loads were hooked up through the transfer switches. I can pick what loads I want to run through the generator system and you can hear the Metro lug down a little as the watt meters go up. The seperate panel was used because the project is part of a long term renovation.

 All of the neutrals are the same, as per the instructions, whether the circuit is being fed from the mains or the generator so it seems OK. Since I'm building a new house thats connected to all of this, I'm having it looked at by the inspector so it is completely OK. I'm sure there will be a few issues with bonding and grounds but I've had to overcome more than a few issues to get this far :).

 I also have a battery bank of 10 golf cart batteries wired to 12vdc with a 6000w surge inverter. This inverter is hardwired at 110 volts to a small panel that powers all of my lighting loads in my mechanical room and some outlets in my mechanical room and generator shed at this point. It is charged by 50 amp chargers when the listeroid runs or off the grid to keep the batteries topped up. I would like to run circuits to each room from this panel also for off grid power but with my inverter I can't share neutrals with the grid system so I need some direction on this when the electrical inspector stops by.

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Waste Vegetable Oil / Re: overused / rancid veggy oil
« on: December 05, 2008, 01:11:55 AM »
Last year a controversial document came out about polymerization of veggy oil and one of the signs is that it takes on a "paint thinner" smell. At that point it is not very good for use as WVO in a diesel engine. It can be caused by a few different things. Information on this document could be found at www.frybrid.com. That site also has lots of info on WVO conversions including some listeroids.

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Waste Vegetable Oil / Re: WVO processor update
« on: July 12, 2008, 03:03:43 PM »
I've been filtering oil and running my vehicles for 3 years and I have had great luck with gravity filtering. I use jeans for sock filters and am able to get 6 on a 55 gallon barrel. This gives me about 25 gallons per barrel when I start out, less as it fills up. After filtering and settling I either pump through a 5 micron filter cartridge into containers for my vehicles or 20 micron filters for my storage tanks which have a heated fuel valve. In 3 years I have changed very few fuel filters on my vehicles using this method. In the winter I have a heated cabinet(discarded freezer) that I use to warm/settle the oil in, along with electric spears for the barrel and socks. Having spent my whole life working on other people's complicated machinery, I choose to keep things simple and cheap for myself. ;D  Living in upstate NY my conversions also have completely heated fuel systems so they can be used down to -20F.

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Other Fuels / Re: Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: July 04, 2008, 01:46:59 PM »
I work on and run a lot of diesel and gas engines including 3 WVO engines. My simplified take on all this is that diesel fuels are rated by cetane and gas is rated by octane. The scales work in almost opposite directions. Cetane measures a fuels ability to ignite under compression while octane measures a fuels ability not to ignite under compression(pre-ignition). By introducing the heavier distillates to gasoline it will make the engine ping easier which might be ok if it's a low compression low performance engine. By adding gasoline to diesels(which many do to blend WVO or for a winter starting aid), the fuel tends to combust quciker during starting. This is just my experience.YMMV. ;D

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Awful quiet in here!
« on: July 03, 2008, 03:35:11 AM »
Just this last week I got my exhaust hooked up so I can work in the shed while the engine is running. Then I got the thermosiphon cooling hooked up and ran my electrical wiring into my house to the generator panel. It has been exactly one year (July 4th) since I bought my Metro and it is almost completed as far as generating electricity to charge my battery bank. Then its on to the heat recovery system. I'm not sure how to post pics on this forum but I'll try to get some together with a link sometime.

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Other Fuels / Re: Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: June 29, 2008, 05:37:45 PM »
A good friend of mine used to run a two stroke chain saw mixture in his Kawasaki gas generator when that was all he had. The engine quit and when I tore it down the exhaust valve was stuck open by carbon deposits. A little cleaning and it worked fine. Just something to watch for.

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Generators / Re: BS or not?
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:58:52 AM »
I totally agree that overunity and this free energy machine is BS. My point was that you can explain how that solar panel is only 7% efficient because you know all of the science behind it. In the future there may be ways to tap into another source of free energy that is a mystery right now. Thinking outside of the box is one way that discoveries such as these can be made.

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Generators / Re: BS or not?
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:14:30 AM »
Whenever I see someone trying to raise money to build a device like this I am sceptical, but think how people must have felt hearing Tesla talk of his ideas, or people like Farraday. Just a few hundred years ago if you said you could move a thin peice of metal(a wire) past a magnet and create a force that could move something you would be thought of as a madman. By one person building on the findings of another it came to pass. The idea of a solar panel collecting the "rays" from the sun and doing work or making a force is not that different fom the concept of this "free energy". It may be that only research labs that will be able to make future discoveries, but I like to think that a group of like minded people on websites such as this can and will make many changes to the way that things can be done. I've already seen it in the WVO community where the knowledge changes and grows almost daily. I believe it was Newton who said, " If I have seen a little farther than others it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants"

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lister-type fuel filters
« on: October 30, 2007, 11:42:02 PM »
You could get a filter housing from a junk yard that fits a VW diesel Rabbit. It has mounting bolts, looks kind of retro and has excellent filters available with water drains.

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