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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: July 09, 2019, 02:20:53 AM »

Thanks Butch, if I have to I'll modify the jaws on one of the pipe wrenches to prevent 'knurling' the studs.
Yes Bruce, I binge read Butch's 12 page thread a couple times since I got the engines. Watched all his Video's several times
as well. It's a fantastic guide that keeps on giving and will for generations........Thank you Butch for all your effort and sharing
of vital info! 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: July 08, 2019, 09:26:21 PM »
So, Camshaft removal......
Grind off the mushed end of the pin thru the collar?
Replace with a split shaft collar? Will that hold sufficiently?

Also, what do folks use to remove the Cylinder-Head studs?
I'm not liking my first thoughts of a small pipe wrench, don't want to mark them up.
Double nut the tops?

It was more work THINKING about getting this 6/1 torn down that actually doing it. Sorta reminds me of taking apart an over
grown Briggs & Stratton, except the parts are a lot bigger. No crazy surprises in the tear down, and keeping a tally on sand found.
Most of the nuts on studs were not very tight at all, save the head stud nuts. Too loose really.
Having fun........so far (I think).
 :)

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 30, 2019, 04:59:55 PM »

Thank you Bruce!

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 30, 2019, 04:48:06 PM »
Well, the 7 hour trip to Maine to get the 12/2 Metro was a success.  What was looking like a sketchy adventure to line up a roll back truck to pick it up, then transfer to the rented flatbed, changed into a piece-of-cake when I went to pick up the rental and discovered it had a 3300lb lift gate. I had no idea they even offered them, and found it odd the salesman never suggested it when I told him the purpose of the trip. No matter.......it all worked out just fine.



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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 24, 2019, 06:45:21 PM »
Lots of good info and practice here, really appreciate the info!

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 24, 2019, 06:34:28 PM »
Be careful when setting the engine down.  If it hits hard with the flywheels on, you CAN get some permanent distortion of the crankshaft, adding slightly to run-out.  It's a chore to straighten, so set her down gently.  I had this happen due to freight carrier, with engine on a pallet!

Bruce,
You're reminding me of a small Sattley hit & miss engine who's crankshaft I straightened this spring for a friend.
That crank was soft as a tootsie roll.
You've also got me wanting to stick an indicator on the wheels now and check runout. There were some rough roads down in Pa.
On the way down empty we traveled Rt 81 and 84, they are just unbelievably rough with 6-8" deep pot holes in places. Lucky to have missed all of them, not sure how I made that happen. I came back on 6 an 171, 2 lane, slow speeds, a bit smoother traveling.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 24, 2019, 04:03:18 PM »
I wouldn't lift the heavy steel base and generator with one head bolt myself, only the engine.

Yes, that's what I was thinking.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 24, 2019, 02:33:39 PM »
Thanks guys!
There is a lift ring that screws onto one head stud. Is it OK to lift just the engine by that method?
I have a forklift that's easily capable of lifting the entire skid, but not so easy to get to it on the trailer right now.

Bob, no manual for the ST head, would love to have one.
The 12/2 trip is scheduled for this coming weekend.

veggie, Yes, it's new, never been run, no oil in the sump.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 24, 2019, 01:44:53 AM »

Things went well, and it was a long day.

So I approach the shed, and the engine. First time ever seeing a Listeroid in person!  I'm pumped.
And I'm dropping my jaw.......exactly when did these things get 25% LARGER than they look on the internetz??
This thing is freakin massive!

Based on my theory that no cop ever wrote a ticket for 'too many tie-downs on a load', I wove a web of strapping over and around the engine. It was locked down solid. Straps inside the tow vehicle are a lot less effective than if they are in use on the load.


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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 22, 2019, 07:58:37 AM »
Thank you Sir

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 22, 2019, 04:11:08 AM »
Bob, thank you very much for posting that manual.

Yes, glort, the power here is pretty reliable as well in Upstate New York.
Some years ago I thought about a Listeroid to ease the demand charges by using it to run some steady loads such as the air compressor and lighting. Then I realized it's not the cost of the actual power that makes the electric bill outrageous, it's all the add-on charges before even one kilowatt is consumed.  So much for beating the power company. But what the heck, I want a Listeroid anyway, for fun.
I'm off on a 6 hour tour tomorrow to retrieve the 6/1.....wish me luck....


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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 21, 2019, 06:16:27 PM »

Hobby mostly, and partial backup for my machine shop.
Which is why I'm interested in a 3ph head.
And frankly, to 'get it out of my system'.  ;)
Perhaps some experimentation and modifications, just for fun.
I'm a lifelong fan of Diesels of all sorts, and at this point, I've never even seen a Listeroid in person.
Hoping that changes soon.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 21, 2019, 02:22:36 PM »
Thanks Bob,

Both engines are on frames with ST heads mounted. And both heads are of course, single phase.
I'd like to have 3 phase, but they don't seem to be available or at least not popular.
I've found 38ac's post again, and now I will re-read it with greater attention as it applies directly now.
Luckily, I have a forklift to help with the lifting..... ;)

One question I have, is, is there any sort of printed 'general' manual available for these engines?
I don't know if the Indian makers provide manuals or not?  Something with dimension and torque specs perhaps?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 21, 2019, 04:00:30 AM »

Thanks Bruce.
Yes, I know there's work to be done before they run. In a way, it will be a fun learning experience to see 'what makes 'em tick'.
And of course, see how big a pile of casting sand I'll have when they're cleaned out..... ;)
Looking forward to experiencing all that I've been reading about all these years.

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Listeroid Engines / Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« on: June 20, 2019, 10:22:41 PM »
Just wanted to express my enthusiasm as a soon-to-be owner of a Ashwamegh 6/1 and a Metro 12/2.
I've been mostly a lurker here for probably 12-14 years and never thought I'd be able to actually own a Listeroid, so very excited about
this. The 6/1 has never been run, and the 12/2 has less than 2 hours of no-load run time.
Totally new to these engines, and will have questions for the forum. Any and all advice eagerly accepted.


Thanks
Dan

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