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Other Fuels / Re: Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: August 16, 2008, 10:10:43 PM »
I'm so sorry guys.  I didn't think that this question would come to near fisticuffs.  My conclusion to my original question is that mixing Kerosine with Gasoline in a gas engine (this case is a generator) is not a good thing.  I'm saving all of my "purchased cheaply" Tiki Torch Oil (aka Kerosine) for my 195 Dungfong Diesels.  At least in the Diesel, I know I'm in the safe zone.  :):):)


Backroad in Bagdad.............................................................................................................AZ..................

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Other Fuels / Re: Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: June 30, 2008, 06:06:26 PM »
OK, I'll look into some diesel additive, but I guess for the time being I'll continue with the two stroke additive just in case.  So far, everything with the DungFong has been great.

If'n I wuz smart enough, I'd probably be doing some recycled vegetabel oil, but I'f the plans aren't laidout for me I'm probably not going to experiment  with the filter and centrifuge and all that.  Old age, ADD and simple fear keep me in the dark ages some times.  & of course I've got a decent supply of WVO from a couple of restaurants if I wanted, but......


Dennis in Bagdad...........................................................................................................AZ..................

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Other Fuels / Re: Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: June 30, 2008, 05:46:36 AM »
Me thinks that I'm not going to experiment with the gas generator any further.  I tried a mixture of about 2 gallons of gas and a 1/2 gallon of the torch oil.  The generator ran great but it wouldn't shut down unless I choked it fully.

When it comes to the Dungfong 195 Diesel, yes I'm playing it safe by adding the 50-1 2 stroke mix.  I was hoping that it would add some extra lubrication to the injector pump and injector, just in case the tiki torch oil (kerosine) didn't have enough lubricating properties.  I guess I can elilminate the 2 stroke mix and be safe, HUH? :):):)

I've currently got about 500 gallons of the torch oil sitting at the house at less than a buck a gallon.   I'm kind of a happy camper.  I pick up another pallet of it every time I go into town (about a 70 mile trip).  Just wish that my little Jeep Comanche could handle more than one pallet at a time.  One puts it about to the bump stops now.  I'm a little concerned that the person I'm getting the stuff from will find a better deal on selling the rest of it.  Of course I've pre-bought another 4 pallets already. 

Next is to run my Ford F-350 with a Cummins first gen engine on the tiki torch oil.  I'm not expecting any problems since it's a basic mechanical injector pump and no electronics.

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Other Fuels / Gasoline & Kerosine Mix?
« on: June 29, 2008, 04:29:30 AM »
Anyone have any thoughts on doing a little gasoline and kerosine mixing in a gas generator.  I've been running my 195 Dungfong (as in Changfa) on straight Tiki Torch oil, which I guess is mostly Kerosine, and it's been doing wonderfully.  Of course I'm mixing a little two stroke oil at a 50-1 mix for the injector pump and injector.

I've been adding about a 1/2 gallon of the torch oil to about 4 gallons of gas to my gas generator and so far have no ill effects, but I'm a little nervous to go any further.

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Changfa Engines / Re: Oil Pressure Indicator on Changfa 195
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:42:13 PM »
You might want to look up George Breckenridge's website.  It's called Utterpower.  The 300+ oil pressure is in fact a fact.  George also has some fitting's that he made up to adapt the stock banjo fittings to an oilpressure guage.  He also had a nice cooling system adapter to be able to use an automotive radiator.  Interesting site, lots of great info and George is also very helpful and also busy.

Backroad in Bagdad...............................................................................................................................AZ....

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Changfa Engines / Re: Oil Pressure Indicator on Changfa 195
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:41:32 PM »
You might want to look up George Breckenridge's website.  It's called Utterpower.  The 300+ oil pressure is in fact a fact.  George also has some fitting's that he made up to adapt the stock banjo fittings to an oilpressure guage.  He also had a nice cooling system adapter to be able to use an automotive radiator.  Interesting site, lots of great info and George is also very helpful and also busy.

Backroad in Bagdad...............................................................................................................................AZ....

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Changfa Engines / Re: Oil Pressure Indicator on Changfa 195
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:40:32 PM »
You might want to look up George Breckenridge's website.  It's called Utterpower.  The 300+ oil pressure is in fact a fact.  George also has some fitting's that he made up to adapt the stock banjo fittings to an oilpressure guage.  He also had a nice cooling system adapter to be able to use an automotive radiator.  Interesting site, lots of great info and George is also very helpful and also busy.

Backroad in Bagdad...............................................................................................................................AZ....

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 08, 2008, 01:05:36 AM »
I must be getting  brave.  I just added to my fuel tank another 5 gallons of the tiki torch oil with a 50-1 mix of two stroke oil.  I think that I had better quit adding to my 55 gallon drum so I know what works and what doesn't.  Please remember that the diesel I'm feeding this to is a 195 Dungfong (aka Changfa).  I've got two of them just in case.  My quick figures of price per gallons so far is about a buck.  The rest of the semi load might just last me a lifetime unless I get brave enough to feed it to my '87 F350 Ford Crewcab 4X4 with a first generation Cummins under the hood.

Backroad in Bagdad...............................................................................................AZ...

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:30:28 AM »
Horsefly76, did you run it straight or mix it?

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:29:07 AM »
Well......I brought back from Prescott, my first full pallet of the torch oil (also says citronella on it) and I got it for a better deal than I had originall thought.  The full pallet had 36 boxes of 6 half gallon bottles and they sold in to be for $50.  Less than 50 cents a gallon.  I did the first trial mix of it today.  2 gallons of the torch oil to 5 gal. of diesel and it's running great....uh....wait a minute let me go double check................................................yes, it's still running great.  In fact, I think it's got a little less diesel knock with the pockita...pokita sound.

If I had the money I'd buy the rest of the semi load.  He can't hardly sell the stuff and a pallet is all my Jeep Comanche can handle at a time.  Another one next trip to the big city of Prescott.

Backroad in Bagdad....................................................................................AZ...............................


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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 03, 2008, 05:27:09 PM »
The WMO would only be used in small quanities to add lubrication to the Torch Oil.  The torch oil would probably be light on some of the lubrication qualities.  I'd used diesel, but It would most likely take too much of it to add any significat lubrication.

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 03, 2008, 04:54:40 PM »
rca....a tiki torch is an outdoor yard light that burns this type of oil.

Jim mc.....I believe that you're right.  I should buy all I can, but I'm going to start with a single box of 70 gallons first and try it.  I was thinking of mixing about 5 gallons of diesel to about 15 or 20 gallons of the torch oil.  I'd use the motor oil but I don't have any way of processing it and I'm not sure of just mixing the used motor oil without doing anything to it.  Any ideas?  Probably, a gallon of unprocessed, used oil would'nt hurt anything mixed with 5 to 10 gallons of the torch oil.  I've got a spare 195 diesel just it case it didn't work well.  :):):):)

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 02, 2008, 11:24:11 PM »
Thanx Tom....I've done a bit of searching on the internet and have come up with nothing useful.  Next week, I'll be near the business that has the oil I'm interested in.  I'm going to stop by and get some more information on the manufacturer and try to contact them. 

Will a parafin oil burn well in a diesel? 

This same place has quite a few 5 gal cans of kerosine, but they want $20 a can.  There's no savings there.

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Other Fuels / Re: TIKI TORCH FUEL
« on: May 02, 2008, 09:18:11 PM »
OK, let me ask this a little differently. 

Does anyone have any idea of what the Tiki Torch Oils are made of? 

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Other Fuels / Re: Blending used oils with modern diesels
« on: April 27, 2008, 06:43:42 AM »
xyzer, I can't answer your question, but I am interested in the answer.  My little 195 Changfa is really quite tough and this would be a much better way of disposing of the used oils.  If used in reasonably smaller quantities and mixed with diesel, could it be safe to use the "unpurified" excess oils around the ranch.  I've easily used some acquired new oils of various descriptions already. 

I've been reading quite a bit on this site, searching for the easiest way to "re-refine" the used oils.  I just a bit mystified by all this.

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