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Listeroid Engines / Re: 16-2 Fuel Pumps
« on: April 12, 2024, 01:54:46 AM »
You bled the infeed, that's only half the job. The line on top of the pump  going to the injector is the high pressure side. you can spin the crank for a long time and will eventually bled out or you can do it the easy way as I discribed in my first reply.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 16-2 Fuel Pumps
« on: April 11, 2024, 05:30:46 PM »
As Bob said the racks need to be open, from the linkage end that would be towards you. Next turn the fuel on and remove the high pressure line on the #1 side which is on the right when your looking at the oil pump and push rods.  Then loosen the fitting on the pump and remove it with your fingers. Watch as there is a spring under it. Then lift the delivery valve off its seat and wait for the bubbles to stop and then replace everything. Then go to the #2 side and do same. Do to the shape of the cross over line line you must let the fuel flow briskly to bleed it. A trickle or a few drops does not bleed it. After this you should have fuel coming from both pumps and you can finish bleeding the lines and injectors

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Things I want to Buy / Re: Lister CE fuel pump required
« on: April 07, 2024, 11:17:12 PM »
As you have found those siamese pumps are not found under every bush. With most of the CEs dead for lack of parts I would not think a pump is impossible. Not sure where you are but I would be checking with some injection rebuilders in England. Peter Slater(spelling?)  comes to mind.  I have seen one or two here in the states on derelict engines but that has been years ago.

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamford in a box
« on: March 20, 2024, 08:05:38 PM »
Finally getting the Bamford back together after waiting for the crank grinder. I sold mine a few years ago, wish I'd kept it. Also how to keep those banjo fittings from leaking which is a huge problem with the China and India parts. These are called Dowdy washers or Bonded seals depending on where you live. They have a soft seal to take up irregularities and a hard washer to tighten against. Your connection will be leak free. Now 9 Bamfords sitting here, anyone want a job????


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Engines / Re: Slip....kerplunk!
« on: March 07, 2024, 01:08:21 AM »
Who says you can't polish a turd,LOL :D

Those oversize twins have a lot of continued issues. I tell everyone who brings one here to keep the RPMs low and output 16HP or less.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Construction year lister D and pump.
« on: February 24, 2024, 09:06:46 PM »
I am not aware of any records for pumps.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Construction year lister D and pump.
« on: February 24, 2024, 01:39:18 PM »
Your numbers break down to this
D- model
H- hopper cooled
Z- anti clockwise rotation
8- added to 1950 is 1958 production
1838th one built in 1958

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Knocking, now what?
« on: February 15, 2024, 11:43:54 AM »
Bob, at one of the Amish sawmills I work part time everyone goes to one back corner to relieve themselves. The mill is sided with tin and it is rotted off about 3 foot high from people pissing there, LOL

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamfords knee deep
« on: February 15, 2024, 11:39:57 AM »
Bob, that's the same problem I had when we moved 8 years ago. My shop work was shut down for over a year while we remodeled and moved and I build my shop. Work kept coming in and I had quite the pile when I got going again.

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Bamfords knee deep
« on: February 15, 2024, 01:58:14 AM »
Eating supper tonight,
A truck backs in driveway with long trailer, Hmmm what's this all about??
Driver says he has two engines for me, Uhhh what??
He has a note, says repair as needed signed xyz Amish fellow from 3 states away.
 2 Z3 Bamfords they are the 7HP version. Out to the barn they go, many engines are a head of them. Hope he is not in a hurry!

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Knocking, now what?
« on: February 15, 2024, 01:44:41 AM »
Ahhh Butch,

You are, as always, a fountain of valuable information!
Have you tried this method yourself?
 
Thanks again

Cheers
Hugh

Strictly Hearsay,,,,

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Knocking, now what?
« on: February 14, 2024, 11:39:02 PM »
Glad it worked for you,
As for corroding the flywheel to the shaft if you can let the engine sit a while you could try relieving your bladder withbit directed in the area of the shaft, flywheel junction???😅😅

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Knocking, now what?
« on: February 13, 2024, 12:39:41 PM »
Pull both gibb keys and then push them back in by hand as far as you can make them go. Then push on one flywheel rim while pulling on the other and reverse that motion. If there is any more than the slightest movent back and forth on the keys it is likely the problem, especially the one that goes in a long way before it tightens. You need some shim stock about .010" place a strip under vthe key that goes all the way in before tightening. Then tighten the key and start the engine. This usually isnt a permanent fix but will tell you if that's is the problem

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamford in a box
« on: February 10, 2024, 11:51:11 PM »
Just a few more pics. The normal overhaul on one of these is 2x what a Lister costs due to all the hand work and lack of cheap parts.
Bamford uniquely shrouded intake valve. There is a rotation stop built into the retainer so the valve cannot rotate. Ordinarily all this goes in the scrap bin and new oversize valves are installed but this engine is low houred. We ground the valves, touched up the seats and it's good to go. Also shown is the copper sleeve for the injector bore. This separates the coolant from the injector. They are always rotted out or close to it. Many of these engines are half full of stop leak that was dumped in an effort to avert fixing this problem. The tubes are shop made as is the tooling required to swage it in place so it doesn't leak.

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamford in a box
« on: February 10, 2024, 11:12:49 PM »
I have a Lisle ridged hone and a wide range of attachments for it.

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