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Lister Engines => Original Lister Cs Engines => Topic started by: Jordan on January 29, 2019, 10:48:34 AM

Title: A couple more questions
Post by: Jordan on January 29, 2019, 10:48:34 AM
If you helpful lads would indulge this newbie a bit more:

I discovered a brass plug near the exhaust valve lifter lever, with "OIL" stamped on it.
I had missed that when preparing to do an oil change on my 6/1.
Looking up the Instruction Book (Book 103/666), it says it is to lubricate the camshaft, with 1/4 pint oil.
How is this oil checked and replenished? That is, how to remove the old oil first, or is that not necessary?

Also, my engine came with a can with big holes in it, attached to the inlet - looks original.
There is nothing inside it in the way of a filter.
I see in the parts section of my Instruction Book an illustration of a different device, a simple elbow, part no. 8-3-176.
It's referred to as an Air Inlet Flange.
I happen to have one of these too. It also has no filter, just a screen with some holes. I can't see how a filter could be
installed in it, as it's welded up.
I'm curious as to what to make of these things. Why have they no filters? And two variations?
My engine is in a shed, and not subject to much dust if any, but there are these pesky mud wasps
that like to plug up any small hole with mud, which won't do anything good for the Lister if they get
sucked into it.

Any advices gladly received.
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: ajaffa1 on January 29, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Hi Jordan, your first question regarding the brass oil plug next to the tappet lifters, when you purchased a brand new Lister CS engine it came with little or no oil in it. You needed to fill the sump with oil however this did not fill the upper level sump where the dipper picks up oil to splash lubricate the piston, big and little end bearings or the camshaft and governor assembly, hence the brass plug through which would fill the upper sump area before use. If you had the time and patience you could manually fill the upper sump by operating the oil pump using the lever provided.

With regards to the inlet filter system, basically they did n`t have one, they had some wire mesh intended to keep out large particles. There are a great many modern air filters that can be fitted, along with some oil bath filters that are designed for these engines.

Mud wasps? Are you in Australia? Those little bastards are the bane of my life I only have to leave a bolt out overnight to find the hole filled with sh1t the following day.

Bob
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: ajaffa1 on January 29, 2019, 12:46:56 PM
Hey Buddy, there is no cure for mud wasps, I recently went to run the cold water tap on the sink in my shed, turned the tap on and nothing came out, further investigation found the tap full of mud. I have had similar problems with chainsaw inlets and exhausts, fuel lines, lawn mowers and even the gas nozzles on my barbecue.

Death to all mud wasps.

Bob
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: BruceM on January 29, 2019, 01:07:56 PM
Mud wasps ruined the stator windings in my 7hp electric compressor motor. Built a nest in there and shorted out the windings, the little bastards.  Rewind cost estimate was more than replacement.
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: dax021 on January 29, 2019, 01:35:41 PM
Mud wasps ruined the stator windings in my 7hp electric compressor motor. Built a nest in there and shorted out the windings, the little bastards.  Rewind cost estimate was more than replacement.


I second that.  Huge problem with them here in S.Africa.  All my spare electrical conduits, alu ladder rungs, any hose lying around, even the clothes in my wardrobe are plugged with mud.  Hate the buggers
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: dax021 on January 29, 2019, 01:38:10 PM

Death to all mud wasps.

Bob
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I second that.  Huge problem with them here in S.Africa.  All my spare electrical conduits, alu ladder rungs, any hose lying around, even the clothes in my wardrobe are plugged with mud.  Hate the buggers
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: Jordan on January 29, 2019, 08:12:49 PM
I saw some "mud wasp-proof" equipment. Good idea.

A rotary phase converter I bought had many entry points, so I used much flyscreen to protect it.

I had a thought - Make a simple shutter for the small air inlet flange, so it could be open or closed.
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: Jordan on January 31, 2019, 05:19:27 PM
Mud wasps? Are you in Australia?
Bob

Southern Highlands, New South Wales.
Title: Re: A couple more questions
Post by: ajaffa1 on January 31, 2019, 11:32:50 PM
What a small world, I`m in Nymboida, near Grafton, Northern NSW.

Bob