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Alternative fuels => Waste Vegetable Oil => Topic started by: guest22972 on September 23, 2018, 09:51:41 AM

Title: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: guest22972 on September 23, 2018, 09:51:41 AM
Buggered if I can find the thread where this started now but as requested, here is my guide to using veg oil.
It flys in the face of about 90% of the info on the net, but it's what I have learned through hands on testing and experience over the last 15 years.

If there are things I have left out people want to know, by all means ask and I'll do my best to address said questions so the info is as valuable to as many people as possible. I have left the files on my site so I can more easily edit and update them as need be as feedback dictates.

It's not short so those with comprehension troubles should not bother but it's not something you can tell someone how to do properly in a single paragraph either.  Shorter to read this than spend years wasting time on useless and incorrect procedures. 

The PDF version is here:

http://dare2bedifferent.com.au/Misc/vegpdf

And the word version is here:

http://dare2bedifferent.com.au/Misc/vegword


Should be easy to print out for those that are interested or good night time reading on screen for those with insomnia to who want to nod right off.
Hope it is of some help to someone though.

Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: old seagull man on September 23, 2018, 10:52:43 AM
Thank you Heir Professor Glort, lover of questionable German misstress's and whisper of decade  dinosaurs.

A most interesting read and some good advice to keep you on the correct road.
Jokes a side thanks for the massive effort of putting all this together, sharing what you know helps us all.

So Thanks 


Andrew.

Um, I have to pick up Chinese for dinner tonight, her indoors night off. Must check out there oil drum while it wait.  LOL.
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: ajaffa1 on September 23, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
Thank you so much Glort for sharing your knowledge with us. I haven`t read it all as it`s past my bedtime and I`ve got to go see the doctor in the morning. I`ll be reading every word tomorrow and encouraging others to do the same, I`ll let you know if I have any questions.

Sweet dreams to you all,

Bob
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: dieselspanner on September 23, 2018, 01:03:28 PM
Thanks Glort

Well worth the read.

Whilst on the subject, is 15ml a minuet go for the WI on a 2.5 TDI Landy?, I intend to follow the advice and fit an interrupter so it only pumps on higher revs.

Cheers Stef
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: BruceM on September 23, 2018, 04:43:45 PM
Marvelous job of technical writing with a fun narrative, Glort.

The WI section reminded me I must dope my Listeroid WI water with methanol very soon- freezing night time temps are coming!

 

Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: dieselspanner on September 23, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
My mistake. your baby, as me old dad used to say!

You're right, it's 150ml / min, or around 6.5 minuets to pump a liter, a bit better than a damp day!

I'm away for a week or so, i'llget around to eventually..........

Cheers
Stef
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: ajaffa1 on September 24, 2018, 10:07:53 AM
Thank you so much for the time you have spent on publishing your WVO for dummies. I will be proceeding with my plan to run my refurbished CS 6/1 on WVO.  I still have a way to go before first smoke, I also need to built it a shed and hook up the generator head. Sorry it`s all taking so long but my health ain`t great and I keep having to waste what time I have left visiting bloody Doctors. Had to go and see an orthopedic surgeon today, 250 Km round trip, he told me to go to see a neurologist. What a waste of time and money!  >:(

I will start looking for a couple of IBC containers to collect and store oil in. I will also be doing the rounds of the fast food outlets in Grafton, of which there are many. What a shame that the Australian population, which used to be slim tanned and health conscious, has followed the American model and become pale, lazy, fat and unhealthy. A perfect place to score a lot of WVO I would guess.

I will also be looking to find myself an old diesel vehicle without too many K`s on it. I`m sure there are some old Patrols, Pajeros, Prados or Hilux out there somewhere, just hard to find. I know a couple of mechanics and scrap metal dealers who would be happy to take my money so I`ll put the word out.

Once again thank you, sorry for putting the hard word on you to do it. AdeV if you are reading this could you please elevate Glort`s work to the Wall of Knowledge.

Bob
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: dieselspanner on September 24, 2018, 10:22:44 AM
+1 for the WOK

Cheers
Stef
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: ajaffa1 on September 24, 2018, 12:38:16 PM
Thanks Glort, I`ve been checking out the Musso range. In the Uk they sell under the name Daewoo. I didn`t know they had Merc engines and drive trains. Should be good and reliable provided the bodies don`t rust away because they are made of recycled sh1t with a poor paint job. There are a couple for sale on CarSales for under $5000 with reasonable K`s. Were the engines/gearboxes genuine German manufacture or did they just buy the designs and manufacture them in S Korea? Not worried about looks, can`t be uglier than me. Old ugly vehicles don`t get stolen or broken into often because thieves know it`s not worth the effort or risk.

I`d love a Nissan Patrol but will need to win the lotto to afford one, regardless of it`s age, especially out here in the bush where they are very much sought after. A friend of mine had a beauty, sadly it had some badly installed aftermarket electrics fitted. It caught fire one night and burned down the shed it was parked in. Luckily no one was injured. A month before he had driven it up to northern Queensland on a camping trip, it had a roof tent he slept in every night for three weeks, he still has nightmares about how lucky he was.

Bob
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: gadget on October 01, 2019, 02:32:41 PM
Hey Glort, I finally had some time to read through your PDF. Let me just say you have some great ideas. I wish I had read this years ago when I was running WVO in my diesel cars.

Your drying method is brilliant. I think it could also be done in other wasy to suit different needs and equipment. I always hated the idea of heating the oil to boil the water out. What a waste of energy to dry it that way. You are taking advantage of the air ability to do all the work for you. Its the same principle of an evaporative cooler, using the phase change of the water and dry air to your advantage. Do you use an evaporative cooler for cooling your house where you live? If so, I would love to show you my 2 stage cooler I am working on for my house.

I also now see what you mean about not needing to preheat the oil before injection. Good point on the oil temp in the injector before it is sprayed.

PDF should be pinned. A must read for anyone getting into waste oils.

Thanks,
Gadget
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: Chris_DK on April 11, 2021, 04:10:55 PM
The links to the guides are broken - if anyone has the doc or pdf, I'd very much like a copy.

Thanks
Title: Re: Guide to using Veg oil.
Post by: Stanley on August 19, 2021, 01:45:54 PM
Just to wake up a stale topic, the links in the first post don't work for me - I get a blank page (there is some javascript content but it seems to be for a default parking page).

Does anybody have a copy  of the original documents as posted please - I'd like a read of them  ;D