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Lister Engines => Original Lister Cs Engines => Topic started by: lastlaugh on August 13, 2018, 01:22:11 AM
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The guy called me today about the engine. I spent the last 5 hours on the road in pouring rain, but I got it home. The data plate does indeed say its an ST2. It has 1262 hours on it (or at least on the timer on the gen head). The owner started it up for me and it seems to run fine. He said he tried to run WMO in it, but it ran hot so he never tried again. Thats the main thing I'm worried about. What would make it run hot, and what do I need to check because of this?
The Kohler generator head produces power, (we tested it with an angle grinder). Now to get it off the truck and tear into it to learn how it works and clean it up. I want to restore it to like new condition, so if anyone know if it was the yellow color, or green, let me know. Also, and knowledge about the gen head would be extremely helpful!
Any information you can provide me about the engine will be greatly appreciated.
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And here is the gen head:
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Congrats! Nice looking project there. The gold on the generator head is an original Kohler color. I think yellow is a pretty common Lister color as well. May have been two tone originally. I would probably paint it all Lister(mid-brunswick) green or all Kohler gold. How did the Tacoma do on the road trip?
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Tacoma hauled it fine. Couldn't even tell it was in the back, even in the pouring rain.
If I'm reading the data plate correct, its a 1978?
I hope to strip the old paint from each piece as I take it apart. Will it need primer? Do any of you have a source for the mid brunswick green paint?
And yes, I think I did good on the price. I got it for 1000$
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Mid Brunswick green is hard to source here in the US. I did see a listing pop up for it on ebay a month or so ago but the listing is gone now. I think it was shipping out of New England somewhere.
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Hi Last
I did the paint piecemeal thing, having made a mess of a complete engine, hurling sags and drips everywhere, I find a cock up can be recovered fairly easily with 'paint as you go'
I did the CS with spray cans from Lidl, a European chain supermarket that has weekly specials designed to tempt the mail into the store along with his Mrs. I bought a whole bunch of spraycans of a straight to metal product that performed as well as 'Smoothrite' but was a third the price
I don't know if Hammerite is available where you are, but the green is not too far off Brunswick, welll near enough for me, anyway!
Cheers Stef
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Congratulations Lastlaugh, Should be a great project and give you enormous pleasure and hours of frustration. Looks like that Kohler head has three slip rings so it`s probably three phase.
If the engine was overheating it is much more likely that the cooling vanes on the cylinders are full of sh1t. Mine was completely covered in a mixture of dust, oil, chicken feathers and mouse droppings.
Paint it any color you like, mine looks like this:
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Can't see why it would be difficult to get any colour these days. They can scan and create a formula from samples as well as codes.
Just googled it and got a hit from every manufacturer here.
https://www.dulux.com.au/colour/mid-brunswick-green
Also found the colour Code.
https://encycolorpedia.com/375241
Should be able to go into any big hardware or Car parts joint that mixes paint and get it.
You can even make your own Colour/ Shade.
I have created colours on the computer, Printed them out, taken them to the paint joint and said make me this. Don't even have to print them out now. Just give them the CMYK numbers or a pantone number ( you are bound to find something in the 16.8M shades to your liking) and they will reproduce it for you.
Those avenues work for you but not here in the states. That's why all of our repainted Lister engines are the wrong color.
The Dupont Dulux link does no good as it has not been available in the states since back in the early 2000 era due to our EPA regs and the codes do not cross over to available Dupont lines meaning ya they will mix it in a current product but it isnt the same color. I once checked out purchasing a few gallons from England and while it is technically not legal to import paint that is not legal to sell here. That didnt stop me but the price delivered $$$$$$$ sure did.
Our paint mix shops do not recognize those European paint codes been there and tried that too.
Tried chip scans 5-6 times at differant places and they came out crap too. Was told that something about our available pigments and bases makes it impossible to duplicate the OEM mid Brunswick color, I dont know, that swhat I was told. I spent a lot of time trying and gave up. I mostly use a mixture of Rustoleum Forrest green and darken it with black to suit my eyes as suggested by Gary at DES. Still looks different in certain light but close enough for stuff not headed fo a museum.
Now if somebody has a workable answer to the right color I am all ears. ;D
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Congratulations Lastlaugh, Should be a great project and give you enormous pleasure and hours of frustration. Looks like that Kohler head has three slip rings so it`s probably three phase.
If the engine was overheating it is much more likely that the cooling vanes on the cylinders are full of sh1t. Mine was completely covered in a mixture of dust, oil, chicken feathers and mouse droppings.
Paint it any color you like, mine looks like this:
Thank you everyone for your responses! I'm exited as hell to get this, especially at this price.
I was debating doing the spray paint option myself if I could find a color close enough to the original. I'd much rather spray it with a gun, but I live in housing on a military base, and I dont think the neighbors would care for the over spray!
I was planning to go to a Sherwin Williams and see if they could mix the proper color, but have been hearing exactly what 38ac said. (Its very hard to get the color here in the states). Without seeing the original color first hand, it will be hard for me to know if its the real color or a horrible reproduction.
- ajaffa, thanks for the inspiration! Yours looks amazing! Where did you get the fuel cell its mounted on?
You are correct on the cooling vanes. I looked inside the cage and it looks like there is all kinds of trash up in there. I'll be taking it apart to clean it as soon as I figure out how.
As far as the gen head goes, I'm still learning! have a good basic knowledge of electronic principles but its been a long time. (I wasnt aware they were called slip rings, but I understand the concept now. (each ring is capacitated 120 degrees off phase). I've never worked with 3 phase power, but now I'm intrigued. Will this work for standard house backup in case of outtage? Do I need to convert it back to single phase or will it just use the first phase for single?
I'm looking for a manual for the kohler, so if anyone has experience with the head or know where i can get one, I will be eternally grateful!
Thanks again for all the responses. You are a great bunch of folks!
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......... I've never worked with 3 phase power, but now I'm intrigued. Will this work for standard house backup in case of outtage? Do I need to convert it back to single phase or will it just use the first phase for single?
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With 3 phase, the power is split over 3 sets of windings, so any single winding has 1/3 rd the power, if it's a 9Kw gen head, only 3kw per winding. otherwise, you need a expensive 3-ph transformer that will convert to 9kw of usable single phase
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Ajaffa1- A showpiece finish and very classy setup for your ST2! Nice!
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Thats bad news on the gen head. 8.5kW is enough to power my cabin. One third of that is not! I may have to look up how to wire it to single phase.
Just amazes me. There is so much so easily available and so Cheap in the states compared to what the rest of us have to work with yet you can't get paint in the colour you want...... or small diesel engines. Makes no sense at all.
Now we can get ANY colour paint we want here AND we can post it anywhere in the world...... For the right price. :laugh:
Don't understand why the sampling of colours is no good. I have never failed to be amazed how spot on it is here. I'm sure the machines aren't only available here and no where else. Most likley be developed in the US and sent this way.
The colour formula page I linked to has hexidecimal and RGB color codes. I can reproduce RGB on my printer so i'm lost as to why such a universal formula can't be applied to paint. I KNOW RGB is used the world over.
otherwise, you need a expensive 3-ph transformer that will convert to 9kw of usable single phase
Not Necessarily.
Depending on how the generator is wired/ built, it may ( and Usually is with our power system gennys here) to wire the outputs so you can get 3 or single phase out the same head. I don't see why it would be any different with US standard gennys.
Not all of them can do it but if you have a 12 wire output you certainly can.
Believe me, finding a Lister here in the US is NOT easy at all, and when you do, you usually pay out the nose for it. I just happened to get extremely lucky!
I'm not sure if its a 12 wire output or not. I'll get better pictures when I get home.
Thanks again for the responses, and advice fellas!
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Come on man, it's easy, just split the load, or am I being stupid?
Cheers Stef
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Come on man, it's easy, just split the load, or am I being stupid?
Cheers Stef
I was wondering the same thing, but I know next to nothing about generators!
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If youre a purist you'll want mid Brunswick green I prefer British Racing Green and it's cheap as chips in the states
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTO-BODY-SHOP-RESTORATION-PAINT-BRITISH-RACING-GREEN-KIT-SINGLE-STAGE-ENAMEL/390287526612?hash=item5adef30ad4%3Ag%3AQGYAAMXQueRRYbLg&_sacat=0&_nkw=british+racing+green+paint&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0
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I may go with that color then!
Im really confused at the gen head now. Posted some pics on the Lister based generator subforum for anyone who knows about that particular thing.
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Glort, there's typically nothing but single phase for residential in the US. 3 phase for businesses, commercial buildings, etc. But it is a hodge podge of over 900 private power companies so so there's all kinds of crazy stuff still around. Older oddities tend to be left alone and just propped up. No such thing as spending money to "standardize".
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North American standard 240v split phase is not the same as 3 phase.
240VAC Split Phase is produced off a single phase input transformer with center tapped secondary, producing for output, a single phase across the 240V outer terminals and two 120V legs with phases 180 degrees apart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-phase_electric_power
A 3 phase system can "sometimes work" but standard NA household wiring assumes a shared neutral and if you try 2 legs of 3 phase on it, you get 208V instead of 240V. Some appliances don't care, some do.
But you would still only be able to pull 2/3rds of the generator power. Maybe its enough for you ? Maybe no 240v gear ?
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Was this the one on Craigslist just outside Austin?
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Voltage will vary with the individual transformer and how it is tapped but 115 to 125 is common, at least in my area. Years ago 110 to 115 was the norm.
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If youre a purist you'll want mid Brunswick green I prefer British Racing Green and it's cheap as chips in the states
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTO-BODY-SHOP-RESTORATION-PAINT-BRITISH-RACING-GREEN-KIT-SINGLE-STAGE-ENAMEL/390287526612?hash=item5adef30ad4%3Ag%3AQGYAAMXQueRRYbLg&_sacat=0&_nkw=british+racing+green+paint&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0
Well if the actual color matches the picture in the ad that comes closer than anything else I have seen or tried. I might just order some up and give it a go. ;)
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If youre a purist you'll want mid Brunswick green I prefer British Racing Green and it's cheap as chips in the states
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTO-BODY-SHOP-RESTORATION-PAINT-BRITISH-RACING-GREEN-KIT-SINGLE-STAGE-ENAMEL/390287526612?hash=item5adef30ad4%3Ag%3AQGYAAMXQueRRYbLg&_sacat=0&_nkw=british+racing+green+paint&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0
Well if the actual color matches the picture in the ad that comes closer than anything else I have seen or tried. I might just order some up and give it a go. ;)
I have liked that colour since I got a Ford Cortina in the late 70's. It was Tan vinyl over BR green If I had my way I'd paint everything BRG! note thats enamel paint in the link you can brush or spray it, automotive paint especially the water based spray on type that needs lacquer always looks darker to me.
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Here in Australia I have found Brunswick Green manufactured by Dulux. I have also found a color called cottage green which is almost indistinguishable and half the price.
Bob
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No Dulux here Bob. EPA said if we kept spraying it we would burn up from climate change,, or was it freeze to death???? Cant remember.
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I`m sure i read somewhere that 90% of the automotive paints in the USA are manufactured by the prison service using prisoner labour. I have no problem with penitentiaries making paint but it worries me that they don`t have the vision to provide the colors people want or need.
I`m reasonably certain that Dulux paints are standard oil based products using mineral turpentine as a solvent. What do the EPA recommend as an alternative?
Any chance the Donald could be persuaded to declare war on the EPA and leave the rest of the world alone for a while?
Bob
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Was this the one on Craigslist just outside Austin?
Yes, it was.
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Nice! I almost snagged that one myself. Good on ya!
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I`m sure i read somewhere that 90% of the automotive paints in the USA are manufactured by the prison service using prisoner labour.
Bob
Good example of dont believe everything you read on the internet, ;)
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Ok, I have been reading the ST2 manual all week and have come upon the "ST2 Builds and Accessories" section. This explains the original option the engine came with from the factory. My build number (A28) says this:
Marine auxiliary triple survey, clockwise rotation, close coupled fan shroud for raised hand starting and with starter blanking plate. Long running/sump heater crankcase. Standard flywheel with starter ring. Fuel pumps set to no overload.
Governor set to 2600 rev/min
Governor range 1200-2100 (outside 8% governing limit)
2100-2600 (within 8% governing limit)
Can someone interpret that for me?
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Ok, I have been reading the ST2 manual all week and have come upon the "ST2 Builds and Accessories" section. This explains the original option the engine came with from the factory. My build number (A28) says this:
Marine auxiliary triple survey, clockwise rotation, close coupled fan shroud for raised hand starting and with starter blanking plate. Long running/sump heater crankcase. Standard flywheel with starter ring. Fuel pumps set to no overload.
Governor set to 2600 rev/min
Governor range 1200-2100 (outside 8% governing limit)
2100-2600 (within 8% governing limit)
Can someone interpret that for me?
Here's a layman's thoughts
"marine auxiliary triple survey" probably just means it was intended to be used on a boat, but not necessarily as the engine that powered the boat but one that ran a generator or lighting, or other systems - and maybe that it was subject to "survey" in that there were rules governing its safe use in marine circumstances & maybe around it's maintenance schedules to keep it reliable so it didn't break down out in the middle of the bloody ocean
"clockwise rotation" is, well, clockwise rotation of the crankshaft when viewed from one particular end (and that doesn't matter to you, probably, cos it will only run in the way that makes the fan work properly to push air over the motor?)
"close coupled" usually just means something that is attached to the end of the crankshaft and driven (in this case the fan) as opposed to being driven by pulleys and a belt
"raised starting" maybe just means the design of the fan housing leaves room for a hand-crank handle as it doesn't have an electric starter motor
Which would be why it has the "blanking plate" over the hole where the starter motor would otherwise be?
"long running sump and sump heater crankcase" probably refer to the oil capacity of the sump (big sump = tolerance for a long run if no-one remembers to check the oil or if it isn't turned off for weeks at a time, maybe?) and maybe the oil system has a heater such as is common in cold climes so the whole goddamn motor doesn't freeze and seize? And so oil will flow on startup in cold temps, maybe?
"Standard flywheel with starter ring" (ring gear) suggests if you took the "blanking plate off you could probably fit a starter motor?
"fuel pumps set to no overload" might be something to do with the combination of the size of the element in the pump and the movement of the rack? Possibly set up so that the motor can't get enough fuel to hurt itself?
Other, better-informed folk will chime in here . . .
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Google " Raised hand starting on marine engines" there are pictures of all the arrangements
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Thanks again for all the replies fellas!
I think I found what "Raised hand start" means:
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Which would be really neat if I had all the parts!
I still haven't been able to start the engine since I have had it here at home. I hope to get a battery and fashion a fuel tank to get it started today. I'd really like to fine some sort of air filter to cover the intake first tho.
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Well, I got out today in the lovely Texas heat and tried to get it started again. I hooked my truck battery to the started with no luck. The solenoid is rusted all to crap and stuck. SO, I pulled it out by hand, and tried it like that. It turned the engine over for a sec, then stopped. Seemed like the battery ran out of grunt. I tried starting it by hand, but it is next to impossible. (I ripped a chunk of skin off my hand trying it). I did get it to turn over, and it was puffing black smoke, but I couldn't get it to catch and run by itself. Its either going to take a much stronger 12v battery, or a 24 volt system.
So, I decided to check the wiring on th eterminals coming from the gen head. They seems ok, so I hooked the battery to it, and tried the starter switch. It clicked, then buzzed for a second, but that is it. I'm almost positive that portion is 24v based on what you all have said and every video I have seen on youtube.
I'm still having trouble putting together in my mind how applying 24v to the gen head will turn the motor tho!
Also, is there a reason why my engine is so hard to turn by hand? It seems everyone on youtube can turn theirs fairly easily. Mine is almost impossible to move. Is it becuasue of the load the gen head puts on the engine? What can I do to make it easier to turn by hand or is that a product of a full rebuild and lube?
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the gen and verify first the engine issus it must run good by hand decompressed. and it must start with 5/6 smart turns. after that think finaly the electric start and gen. pedrosa
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Check the valve clearances and then adjust the decompression levers as per the manual. Could be the pistons are coming into contact with the valves or that you are trying to overcome compression while cranking.
The SOM drawing I posted requires 24 volts for an ST2, 12 volts for ST1
If it has stood for a long time without an air filter or exhaust there is quite likely some surface rust in the bores. Just behind the decompressor levers there are two nylon plungers, lift these out and fill the two small cylinders with engine oil. Replace the plungers and push them all the way down. This will pump oil into the combustion chambers, lubricate the pistons and increase compression for cold starting.
Are you cranking it the right way? Some cranking handles can work in either direction. If you are cranking the wrong way the engine will blow air out of the air intake and suck through the exhaust.
Bob
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Yes he started it with a battery connected to the starter directly. I didn't pay attention to what kind of battery, but it appeared to be a car battery. He was a heavy equipment mechanic tho, so it could have been a heads duty one.
I'm definitely turning it the right way. Direction is on the handle and only turns that direction. I figured it was just or crud from sitting for awhile.
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Well glort, I decided to stop being a cheapskate and go get 2 marine deep cycle batteries today. I wired tehm in series, and also replaced the old rotted terminals coming out of the gen box. I tested for continuity all the way to the slip rings, and everything appeared ok. So, I hooked it all up, and flipped the start switch.
It started like the day it was made! Crank very easily and putted right along. I tested the 110v outlet connected to it, and it was putting out right at 115v. I'm not sure how to check the total watts being put out, but everything seems to work perfect. One thing I did notice tho is that I'm not getting any current back on the terminals while the engine is running. Once it was running, I disconnected the batteries and tested the terminals. barely 2volts and 2.5Amps. This isnt enough to charge the batteries back, so I'm guessing that portion of the SOM isnt working.
Is my line of thinking correct or am I forgetting something??
Also, I really need a fuel tank for this thing. I'm currently using an old coffee can that I drilled a hole in the bottom of, inserted a grommet, and inserted the fuel line. It spilled today making a mess. Anyone know where to get a fuel tank for an ST2?
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Also, I really need a fuel tank for this thing. I'm currently using an old coffee can that I drilled a hole in the bottom of, inserted a grommet, and inserted the fuel line. It spilled today making a mess. Anyone know where to get a fuel tank for an ST2?
Lister ST fuel tanks and ALL other L/P parts are stocked in Kansas. Contact Gary - gsj@gci.net
dieselgman
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Thanks for the reply. I do have a DC clamp meter but I didn't even think to use it!
I wondered the same thing about disconnecting the batteries. If I removed the load, the generator would no longer supply voltage to charge. I'll start it up again tomorrow and see what it looks like with the clamp meter.
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Also, I really need a fuel tank for this thing. I'm currently using an old coffee can that I drilled a hole in the bottom of, inserted a grommet, and inserted the fuel line. It spilled today making a mess. Anyone know where to get a fuel tank for an ST2?
Lister ST fuel tanks and ALL other L/P parts are stocked in Kansas. Contact Gary - gsj@gci.net
dieselgman
I emailed gary yesterday about the ST2 parts. He's getting back with me on prices. Thanks
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Well done Lastlaugh, finally got her running! :)
Had to fire mine up today, I really should do it every month. Very big bush fires near me will probably take out the local electricity grid this evening. Can`t fight fires without electricity as all my water pumps are electric.
Probably got 70,000 liters of water in the tanks and ten times that in the dam, despite the drought. Would be a real pisser to loose the house to a bush fire because the genny wouldn`t start.
Neighbors as close as 5 k from here are being evacuated (top end of my road). Could be in for a long night, hoping the wind will die down giving the fire service a breather.
Spent the afternoon with a weed eater removing every possible flammable piece of grass from around the house paddock, feeling reasonably secure, wish us luck.
Bob
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Last year, wildfires pushed by winds, swept into Santa Rosa, California, and because of the wind, the flames went through suburban neighborhoods, shopping malls with acres of blacktop parking lots, and business parks.
It's tough to armor against that happening.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubbs_Fire
newspaper, with before & after aerial photos
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-northern-california-fires-structures/
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Hi Guys, thanks for the support. We got through the night OK and the wind has died down. The road is still closed and I have never seen it so busy, a continuous stream of fire fighting equipment heading to Buccarumbi.
Gives me the shits that this fire was lit by the rural fire service as part of a hazard reduction burn and now covers 3000 acres of forest and is destroying peoples homes, livestock and property.
I do have a very powerful fire fighting pump (petrol) sadly I lent it to my neighbor when her pump failed. That was nine months ago and she`s still got it. Don`t feel right going and asking for it back as she is a pensioner living on her own.
I always keep the gutters clean as all our potable tank water comes off the roof of the house or shed. Thankfully the weather forecast is giving rain coming in on Friday so we just have to hope the wind stays calm till then.
I do have a plan to build another dam in the valley behind the house. It will flood the boundary fence so I will need to discus it with my next door neighbor but in light of the drought and fires I think he will probably agree, especially if I pay for it and he gets access to several mega liters of water. I might even put some fish in it. Nothing better than a free feed now and then. :)
I do have plans for putting a water main around the house paddock, this would be great for fire suppression and also for irrigating the fruit trees and vegetable patch. I`m not going to try digging a half kilometer trench until we get some rain, the ground is just too hard at the moment.
Bob
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Best wishes with your fire ordeal, Bob. Arizona has had a dozen 50,000 acre fires in this White Mountains area that started as ''controlled burns'' in the last 30 years. Idiocy and incompetence are things you can count on, globally.
I'm in a swath of overgrazed high desert grassland (clumps with open dirt between) with very few junipers that extends up into the Petrified Forest. No risk of brushfire here, the cattle even keep the sagebrush nibbled to the woody stub. We do get plenty of smoke and combustion gasses. Big much promoted and federally funded program to do much more burning, calling it "natural". It's much cheaper (not counting medical costs and excess deaths) than grazing goats.
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Thanks again for the support. About an hour ago we had the firemen come to our home to tell us that the fire was out of control and coming our way. Worse than that the weather forecast says that the wind will pick up and blow the fire towards us. I think my wife and I will stand and fight the fire rather than running and hoping the fire service will save our home and belongings. I have very severe concerns for my neighbors property as they are on holiday in Japan. I would like to try to save their home but don`t know if I can handle two properties at the same time.
We have water and R A Lister power if the grid goes out. We also have a very clear area around our home so we should be OK. The next 24 hours will be very taxing, I have prepared cans of diesel with 10% gasoline with the intention of back burning the bush around us so it never gets to us. Last time this happened there were 70 foot high walls of flame but the property survived. Fingers crossed we can do the same again.
Bob
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Damn, hope all goes well for you. Please update us when you can.
(I wasnt aware Australia had this problem with wildfires)
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Thanks guys, we got through the last 24 hours OK. Fire is now licking at our boundary fence about half a kilometer away, a lot of smoke and ash falling but so far no falling embers.
Just counted another seven fire engines going up the road to fight the fire. Sadly the water bombing planes that have been flying all day don`t fly at night.
Got to admire the bravery and determination of the fire service that are willing to put themselves in harms way
to protect others, especially as 90% of them are volunteers and give their time and effort for free.
Just a quick photo over the roof of my home, stay safe,
Bob
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Hang on buddy ,but don't forget that it's all replaceable except for you and the Mrs.............
Stef
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Thanks Stef, the wind has died down and we are expecting the first rain in three months, coming in on Friday.
One day to get through and we should be OK.
We have the car loaded and pointed at the road, if we get the phone call we will be gone to a safe place. We will hose the house with all the water we have just before we leave.
Bob
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Bob, how are things going? Haven't heard from you. Hope all is well.
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Hey Guys, Yes we are still OK. We are still sandwiched between two bush fires but we had 10 mm of rain overnight. Expecting another 10 mm today and maybe 20 mm on Sunday. Hope It`s enough to control the fires and give the fire fighters a break.
High winds predicted for next week which could cause big problems again. So far the fires have burned some 8000 hectares.
The crazy thing is I am still having to chop firewood to keep us warm at night. :laugh:
Bob