Lister Engine Forum
How to / DIY => Everything else => Topic started by: LowGear on June 24, 2018, 07:18:55 PM
-
I watched a neat article on YouTube today. I do enjoy Robert Llewellyn and his Fully Charged series. This one dropped a small $80 Billion bomb about 2/3s way through. Older oil and gas rigs in the North Sea are being pulled out. The current crop is going to cost eighty billion dollars just for removal. How can Shell or Exon afford to do this? They don't. The people of the United Kingdom are. Please don't bitch about electric car subsidies out loud to me ever again. Oops, that should be 80 billion UK pounds; not USD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYr7aGf0-wA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYr7aGf0-wA)
-
Gee. $160 billion of our little wee $NZ dollars. Our GDP last year was $NZ 186 billion lol
You guys oughta come live down here in NZ. It's nice
Most recent stats show we have enough extra generation capacity - small hydro/wind/geothermal - already in the consent stages to cover the electricity requirement of a national fleet of electric vehicles, even if the uptake is faster than is anticipated
A fascinating topic IMHO
Cheers
-
I've never heard a bad thing about New Zealand. I sailed from Vancouver, British Columbia to Hawaii on the Capt. Cook replica Endeavour that was built in New Zealand. We had regular crew made up of British, Australian and New Zealanders. I thanked God most mornings the cook was from New Zealand. Without her we just might of Captain Bly-ed the Captain from Australia. The Cat V8 diesel on the 20th century deck was pretty handy too. 21 days in a ship that had a broader bow than stern.
Oops; It's positioned really handy to the 40th latitude. I'm very hooked on the tropical temperatures especially during the Winter if there still is such a thing.
Of course now that the lesson has been set I assume the wind turbine people will just walk away from the structures as the oil people have their rigs. The world will be powered by dilithium crystals by that time. ;)
-
Yup! He's Aussie.
So glort. What do you think of the 80 billion British gubberment pounds to clean up after the oil industry again? Is this a subsity or ?
-
I think people like you who are forever bitching about oil and coal but then use the products and convenience they provide are complete and utter hypocrites.
I`m with Glort on this one, I`m tired of being lectured about the planet destroying effects of oil/coal/gas/nuclear. We all rely on these products to heat our homes, feed us, cloth us and transport us.
If anyone here wants to go back to a pre-industrial existence please feel free to do so, you won`t be able to post on this forum or any other because computers, smart phones and internet access all depend on fossil fuels.
I think we should all be concentrating on reducing our dependence on fossil fuels and other finite resources and finding better ways to fuel our extravagant lifestyles. The very least we should be doing is trying to cut back on our consumption and the waste we produce.
As for the cost of decommissioning oil rigs and etc. if it costs the British tax payer £80 billion who cares. The government in the UK have had far more than that in tax revenues from taxing fossil fuels. Sadly they squandered that money on everything except finding alternative energy solutions. I am so glad I no longer live on that overcrowded and badly governed island. When I left the national debt had risen to close to £200,000 for every man, woman and child. I guess the government will just have to borrow another ship full of money from the Chinese. The next generations will inherit the debt and suffer the consequences.
Bob
-
I wonder who has the largest collection of solar panels in the LEF membership? ::)
Are government mandates always wrong. Like polio vaccinations? Leaded gasoline? Ethanol gasoline - Oops.
Did you know that Neanderthals actually had larger brains than modern man?
-
Are government mandates always wrong.
Pretty much, yes.
Did you know that Neanderthals actually had larger brains than modern man?
Yeah, but they never invented the V8. So that's 1-0 to modern man, I think you'll find.
-
That's two for AdeV.
Gossip has it that we screwed them out of existence. Biblically speaking.
I had a revelation while pulling weeds this morning and it was inspired by ajaffa1's post.
I have become somewhat of a bore on anti petroleum and coal energy production. I apologize. This is my favorite forum and I will be getting back to basics from now on no matter how much I'm baited (see, I'm the victim). Thanks for your time and energy.
Aloha
-
I wonder who has the largest collection of solar panels in the LEF membership? ::)
Are government mandates always wrong. Like polio vaccinations? Leaded gasoline? Ethanol gasoline - Oops.
Did you know that Neanderthals actually had larger brains than modern man?
Some of the people I encounter seem to have very small brains indeed. I went to cut my mates grass this evening he had a plastic barrel cut lengthwise and he was using it to burn rubbish. I pointed out it was plastic and he said I know but I have a saucepan full of water if it catches fire. Darwin award candidate
-
Hi Guys, The point I was trying to make about green issues is this: we can`t put the fossil fuel genie back in the bottle. What we can do is be more efficient in how we use it. By all means install solar panels and other home generation systems and for all our sakes insulate your home.
If you wish to reduce your carbon footprint, good for you and good for the planet but most of all good for the hip pocket. I for one resent the amount of money I have to pay for electricity/petrol/diesel, anything I can do to reduce this expenditure is good for me, good for the environment and flicks the bird to greedy corporations/governments.
Being as tight arsed as possible is the one thing we can all do to protect the future. Restoring an old engine, which will last you a lifetime, has got to be better than buying a brand new modern piece of crap that will only last until the guarantee expires.
Bob
-
off-grid & 5Kw of PV
-
Well done Mike90045, life isn`t about how much you have, it`s about working out how much you need. If you can`t run the welder at the same time as the washing machine, you don`t need more power you just need to scheduled you washing/welding better.
Bob
-
Off-grid also
2115 Watts PV
When there is sun, it is ample, no sun, no power.
Have to run the listeroid about 275 hours a year for charging.
No sun in the Canadian Pacific coastal winter.
Cheers,
Hugh
-
I always wondered about people like Al Gore and Leo flying all around the world on their private jets to bitch about global warming and the dreaded fossil fuels. Dear Al lives in a huge mansion that eats electricity like candy and Leo is in another part of the world every week or on a diesel guzzling yacht . The Bull*hit "i buy carbon offsets" is just another way of them saying we are better than you and we can burn as much as we want because we are rich. Gore has made a lot of money off his hypocrisy. With today's technology there is no need to fly across the planet in a private jet to have a climate summit why not just teleconference?
I doubt many of us poor peasants here have ever traveled on a private jet. just my 2 cents.
-
Look up the home insulation debacle that killed people,
Say what? I'm intrigued - how does home insulation kill people (unless it wasn't fire retardant insulation & went into so-called "to code" houses with lethal wiring)?
-
The Australian government decided to encourage people to insulate their loft spaces by offering large subsidies. A lot of dodgy insulation companies sprung up overnight. They used untrained/unskilled young people to do the work. Some died from electrocution from the wiring in the lofts others from heat stroke. You wouldn`t want to be in Aussie loft in mid summer!
All very green I am sure but not well thought out, implemented or supervised. Another fine example of a well meaning but stupid government involving themselves in something they know nothing about, at the tax payers expense.
Bob
-
There are lots of different blown fiber insulation but not much is a bad for human health as good old fashioned phenol-formaldehyde fiberglass bats. Still being used in the US and present in the bulk of US housing. I think we're one of the last industrialized nations to allow phenol-formaldehyde in interior furnishings as well.
There is no perfect insulation, but the formaldehyde free batts and blown glass fiber (proprietary silicone compounds and mineral oils added to faclitate bagging are lesser than some evils though still require respirators for handling. For new construction if I had to have forced air duct work in the attic, I would consider air-crete (foamed magnesium oxide cement) or doing sprayed foam envelope type insulation so all the duct work is INSIDE the insulation envelope. Good reports on performance of those homes here; duct losses are much more than people realize. Leaks in the return duct are common and a serious air quality hazzard; especially with blown cellulose, but in any case not nearly enough attention is given to keeping ducts sealed and clean inside as well.
It's very common here in AZ for contractors to use flex duct for heat pump systems- wire-plastic inside and plastic outside liner and phenol-formaldehyde bonded fiberglass inside. It installs fast, but the ducts can't be cleaned, the 3/4 inch of fiberglass is inadequate, and the formaldehyde is strongly present in the new home air. Perfect for creating kids with a lifetime of asthma, allergy, and chronic (autoimmune) illness.
-
A lot depends on the General Contractor and the caliber of his subcontractors. No amount of regulations mean much when unskilled or careless people are doing the work. Arizona is notorious for some of the worst construction quality imaginable, and it's worse here in the rural areas.
Good that your duct work was done well, Glort. Be glad you have some standards.
I'm not a fan of blown cellulose; the borate and chemically treated reprocessed newsprint has caused a lot of illness- usually when return ducts have cracks or leaks and borate/newsprint dust gets in the air. It hasn't been a product well tolerated by people with chemical injuries.
Air Crete is an interesting product but our regional licensee botched so many jobs that he's only been used on one disabled housing project I was volunteering on. I had to go over his head to the licensing company to get him to do the job right; magnesium oxide cement is VERY fussy about temperature. He'd been sued and lost several times, but yet he still was about to blow aircrete in an unheated home in the winter, at 4000 feet elevation with no front door. If the cement to water to phosphate mix is wrong or the temperature too hot or cold, you get either goopy soup that stays wet and ruins all the drywall, or dusty powder that gets everywhere and doesn't insulate.
I helped have some specially made pure glass fiber insulation made for homes for people with chemical injuries. Alas, both companies said never again, as without the silicones and mineral oil, their bagging equipment wouldn't work and it all had to be bagged by hand. One burp of their equipment made an entire 50 foot semi trailer full.
Two truck loads of the compressed bales did do a half dozen homes.