Lister Engine Forum
Lister Engines => Lister Market Place (things for Sale) => Topic started by: amsimoes on October 05, 2017, 08:39:56 PM
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Good evening everyone!
I'm selling an original Lister CS Stationary Engine, bought in 1939 and since then until '00 was used to power a Olive Press.
The engine isn't attached to the press anymore, but it's still working 100%.
The diesel and cooling tanks as well as any other parts, are included.
The engine and all parts are located in Portugal.
I have an album of pictures I took recently and a video of the engine starting and working as well.
The images are quite large, so I leave the album link here: Engine Photos (https://imgur.com/a/RaVly)
The video is on YouTube: Engine Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmwaDc1snQo) (not very good light)
I have a listing on eBay (https://goo.gl/vhdPBr), with a Buy Now price fixed at $5000 - used as a "roof" - and a symbolic shipping price of 1$ - this price will be dealt depending on the buyer's location.
I'm open to any offer.
The only real offer I've got so far was $1500 + shipping price to a freight terminal of Kansas City.
The shipping price will be dealt depending on the buyer's location.
Yours sincerely,
António
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$5000 for an engine on it's own?
Wow, they must be a REALLY hard thing to come by in Portugal with every 2nd person there trying to buy one.
Yes, our border is full of Lister smugglers! 8)
I didn't want to list it as a Auction on eBay and my intention was to see how much interest / offers it can gather, as I didn't have experience on this selling market.
The $5000 price tag on eBay for the Buy Now is to be able to receive offers below that value, this is, without risking some one buying it at once if I had a cheaper price tag.
It's the second month the engine is listed on eBay, the 1st month received 800+ views, 3 contacts and 1 offer.
This only offer I got was $1500 for the Engine, without the fuel tank, plus the shipping price to be defined, paid by the buyer as well.
Cheers
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I didn't take it as rude!
One of the reasons I didn't want to Auction it is because I don't have that experience with that selling type on eBay, and thought Buy Now was simpler on the beginning, to get to know the market and the offers I'd got.
I'm actually mediating this for a friend.
The engine has emotional value for him and he'd only sell it for a good amount of money.
That price tag was to serve as a "roof", and I'll actually remove it from the post and state the latest offer I got was $1500 plus shipping, in order to avoid confusion.
And since shipping will depend on the buyer's location, I think it's better listed as a Buy Now rather than an Auction, at eBay.
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the latest offer I got was $1500 plus shipping, in order to avoid confusion.
How much are you hoping to get? $1500 is a good offer. There are SOM setups(heavy flywheel CS with generator) on Ebay for £700-800 obo and spoked flywheel versions like what you have listed for less than that.
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the latest offer I got was $1500 plus shipping, in order to avoid confusion.
How much are you hoping to get? $1500 is a good offer. There are SOM setups(heavy flywheel CS with generator) on Ebay for £700-800 obo and spoked flywheel versions like what you have listed for less than that.
But are those original Lister CS engines which date of 1939, and still working?
Couldn't find those listings you mention, would you put them here or send me?
Thanks for you reply
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Hi amsimoes,
I see better deals float by on eBay - UK almost every week. Long onto eBay - UK and save a search querie "Lister Diesel" to your account. It won't be long.
Casey
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I love to have it but the only thing is I have a bank check for more than the amount, so id need a cash refund for the balance...... ;D
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I love it. Would that be on the National Bank of Romania? I've got two Nigerian Credit Union ones I'll trade you but I'll need $3200 USD to get the Supreme Court to release the funds? I'm shipping out for a two year posting in Iraq or I'd stop by myself so I'll have to have you send the money to Western Union cash transfer.
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Hi amsimoes,
I see better deals float by on eBay - UK almost every week. Long onto eBay - UK and save a search querie "Lister Diesel" to your account. It won't be long.
Casey
Hello Casey,
I've just searched for that, and most listings are for Lister Generators and Lister Marine with turbo, much more recent engines than what I'm selling.
I'm selling a 100% Working engine that dates from before the World War 2...
I think that does hold much more collectible value than a more powerful recent Lister unit.
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I love to have it but the only thing is I have a bank check for more than the amount, so id need a cash refund for the balance...... ;D
I've sent you a PM. Thanks for you interest.
Meanwhile, I've received another 1500$ offer on my eBay listing.
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Hi amsimoes,
I forgot the collectible feature of your engine.
Casey
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Come on lads, less of the insensitivity, please.
I'm only 9 hours drive across the mountains from this fine machine, If anyone has any real interest in it I'll happily jump in the Land Rover and give it a good thick coat of looking at for the cost of a few tanks of diesel and a couple of nights in a decent hotel.
Cheers Stef
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Meanwhile, I've received another 1500$ offer on my eBay listing.
So I take it you are going to knock that back as well?
I'm talking with the interested person, which is from Switzerland.
The offer is 1500$ plus the shipping price paid by the buyer.
I've also got a lower offer of $1000 from Dominican Republic
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Hi Amsimoes,
Your`e doing the right thing, using the greedy Ebay (in the UK they operate from a tax haven) platform as an advertising medium, with this method you should filter out the many bidding idiots out there to whom buying and not completing is a sport.
I`ve given up replying to the opinionated people who wish to remind me that there`s one in Kazakistan, Nigeria, next door et al, cheaper than the item I`m selling, the reason they don`t take their money and unasked for opinion where its needed, is because talk is cheap.
That`s my little self opinionated rant over and good luck with the sale.
Mark.
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Phew !!!!!!!
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What'd he say?
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What'd he say?
Nothing
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No. I'm not interested in your views on people who are different to you, or on politics, or on philosophy, or on government. I only read the bits relating to diesel or solar - even then I skim through the polemic to find the substantial.
Interesting insights into solar performance in low-light situations, though
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Hey guys!!!
Haha please didn't intend to make anyone mad with this ;D
That was quite a write-up, will try to read all that rant!
As I told earlier I'm mediating this for a close friend, and he just told me some days ago that the Cooling Tank got sold during the Summer.
The Lister engine model I'm selling, 5-1, is the Tank cooled model, not the Radiator cooled model. The tank is much bigger than the radiator.
It might change things for someone interested, but for others might not.
I'm dealing now with an interested buyer from Kansas, Missouri, which was only interested in the engine + Fuel Tank from the beginning, as to him the cooling tank would take much space and shipping cost would be too expensive.
The value we're dealing is over $2000.
I think I'll open a topic elsewhere asking if someone has any recommendation on a international shipping company, that would pickup in Portugal.
We're we have DHL, TNT and the rest are local companies I think...
Have a great weekend everyone, with, or without, rants 8)
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I seriously doubt if anyone on this forum really gives a hoot about political correctness. Yes, it's small diesel engines and energy generation / conservation voiced by practicing people that makes it part of my morning ritual. A little hopes and needs are interesting when they're fresh but the same old crap droning on into the sunset makes me quickly long for the end of the message. Skim, I wish I were so sophisticated or patient.
So did we get the not $1500 engine sold?
Casey
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I had good progress with a gentleman called Matt from Kansas City, and talked with a shipping company here that could transport from Leixoes (Porto) to Kansas City for 550$.
After that, he didn't reply to me anymore don't know why, because it's a fair value and he agreed on it...
Since then, got an offer of 1500$ from New Zealand but he quit after getting to know that the shipping price would be higher than to Kansas, so 500$.
I also got another contact from a guy who is interested on buying an original Lister like mine, but says that it's somehow illegal to import it to the USA and that the customs would seize it, anybody can confirm this info? I'll probably open a new topic on other section about this...
Cheers guys
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I would doubt a serious New Zealand buyer would consider that on both price and freight cost, when similar can be had locally for around $NZ500, these genuine Listers are far more prevalent here and come up on our auction sites frequently. The Kiwi slang for these time wasters is "tyre kicking".
In saying that, bugger all at present, a couple of old petrol engines though, and a 3 cylinder diesel at probably a good price...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchString=lister+engine&type=Search&searchType=all&user_region=100&user_district=0&generalSearch_keypresses=6&generalSearch_suggested=13&generalSearch_suggestedCategory=
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I had good progress with a gentleman called Matt from Kansas City, and talked with a shipping company here that could transport from Leixoes (Porto) to Kansas City for 550$.
After that, he didn't reply to me anymore don't know why, because it's a fair value and he agreed on it...
Since then, got an offer of 1500$ from New Zealand but he quit after getting to know that the shipping price would be higher than to Kansas, so 500$.
I also got another contact from a guy who is interested on buying an original Lister like mine, but says that it's somehow illegal to import it to the USA and that the customs would seize it, anybody can confirm this info? I'll probably open a new topic on other section about this...
It is Not illegal to import antique engines into the USA. That doesn't guarantee that it won't become a PITA to get it done. If it is dismantled or incomplete and just called parts, then your paperwork becomes pretty easy. Mention "Engine" and certain triggers will be tripped as far as legality is concerned. None the less, once you can meet the burden of proof that your unit was manufactured before the pertinent EPA regulation came into force, you will be able to get past the bureaucrats and their gatekeepers.
dieselgman
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With everyone round the $1500 mark, would prove the initial $5000 ask was ridiculous. Maybe you should have taken the $1500 offer you knocked back.
How come all the offers are from OS, is there no one in your own country interested in these things or have you over priced it for the local market?
Here in Portugal people don't have the interest nor the money to buy an engine like this.
This is an engine from before the World War II, and is still functional, it has a lot of antique value.
I've already stated in this topic that the $5000 price tag was like a roof, and to test the market. Don't need to keep saying it was a ridiculous value to ask. I'm not a Lister nor an engine enthusiast, since listing it I learned quite a bit.
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I had good progress with a gentleman called Matt from Kansas City, and talked with a shipping company here that could transport from Leixoes (Porto) to Kansas City for 550$.
After that, he didn't reply to me anymore don't know why, because it's a fair value and he agreed on it...
Since then, got an offer of 1500$ from New Zealand but he quit after getting to know that the shipping price would be higher than to Kansas, so 500$.
I also got another contact from a guy who is interested on buying an original Lister like mine, but says that it's somehow illegal to import it to the USA and that the customs would seize it, anybody can confirm this info? I'll probably open a new topic on other section about this...
It is Not illegal to import antique engines into the USA. That doesn't guarantee that it won't become a PITA to get it done. If it is dismantled or incomplete and just called parts, then your paperwork becomes pretty easy. Mention "Enigine" and certain triggers will be tripped as far as legality is concerned. None the less, once you can meet the burden of proof that your unit was manufactured before the pertinent EPA regulation came into force, you will be able to get past the bureaucrats and their gatekeepers.
dieselgman
Thanks dieselgman.
I'll look into it.
Actually, the engine is missing the cooling tank. This way should make it easier to say it is parts instead of full engine...
Happy New Year
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Did you sell it?
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Fantastic Thursday!
I sold the dead tractor that had been under a tarp for five years yesterday. The first guy out got it running at full speed and offered $500 for a machine that is listed at $650 for parts - not running. Just between us the price absolutely firmed up when the engine started. He knew I had gotten over a dozen responses on the first day of the craigslist ad. Take an offer of less than full listed price on the first full day with a line waiting to look at it? Please Ladies and gentlemen. The second guy put $550 down and will return in a week with his trailer and, yes, and another $100. YES!
So I would suggest an asking price that you would be happy with and have an acceptable price in mind. If $1500 is your acceptable price then $1800 would be a good asking price but you could take an eighty percent offer and still be inside your guidelines.
Too bad there's not a local olive oil museum that would be interested in it. Are there any antique diesel engine clubs in or near Portugal that would make shipping easier? Check with a local news agency to see if they will do a story on changing times for the area. Get something in you photo set (pets and children work really good) that give an idea of scale to these engines. I find them surprisingly big. Do some marketing. If it still chugs then do a YouTube. Nothing sells Listers better than the chugity chug of a 650 RPM diesel.
Best wishes
Casey
PS. The engine looks great.
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Here is something that might be worth the money https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maroochy-river/power-tools/11-kva-lister-generator/1175469587. Very similar to my st2, with the engine and gen head mounted on top of the fuel tank.
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If I had four grand spare this would already be on it`s way here and my shed would have 3 phase power by this time next week. Why is there always more month than money?
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Hey Glort, I guess that as we get older our ability to earn diminishes, thankfully so does our desire to spend money on luxuries.
I have no desire to own a new state of the art TV and surround sound system. Crap programs are still crap twice the size and volume.
With regards to shed clear out, a mate of mine is a compulsive hoarder. He has been collecting stuff for forty years. he has no idea what he has got and will not part with any of it. He has been approached by several museum curators who have offered to catalogue his collection for free. There was even talk of opening a museum in Coffs Harbour. He has got around his shed problem by simply building a new one every year. His farm now looks like an industrial estate.
Nothing wrong with being a tight arse, look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves. Don`t suppose you would consider working in Government procurement, teaching them to stop wasting the tax payers hard earned?