Lister Engine Forum
How to / DIY => Engines => Topic started by: dieselgman on November 16, 2006, 01:58:19 PM
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Lister manual collection of many years available as needed.
Diesel Electric Services
Vintage Lister Document Inventory
Quantity Book# Model/s description Publisher E - Version
1 D The Lister D Story 1926 - 1964 Edgington no
1 A, AK, B, BK Instructions & Spare Parts book, 20pp Lister yes
1 68/859 D DK Instructions & Spare Parts book, 14pp Lister yes
1 476/356 D DK technical specification & data, 12pp Lister yes
1 145 CD/CE Instructions & Spare Parts book, 45pp Lister yes
1 103/952 3/1 5/1 10/2 Instructions & Spare Parts book, 40pp Lister yes
1 103/666 3.5/1, 6/1, 8/1, 12/2, 16/2 Instructions & spare parts book Lister on request
2 103PL 8-1 16-2 parts Parts List, 58pp Lister yes
1 CD/CE Service Manual, 24pp National Schools yes
1 106/166 JP/JS/JK Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
1 SL, HA, HB, JK, FR, VA, A Black Data Book - for sales/service reps Lister yes
1 2002/2 S,T,U&V injectors Instruction Manual, 32pp CAV yes
1 BPF pumps Instruction Book, 20pp CAV yes
1 312/1052 Start-o-matic Instructions & Spare Parts book, 44pp Lister yes
1 322/556 FR1-FR6 Instructions & Parts List, 114pp Lister yes
1 322/659 FR1-FR6 Instructions & Parts List, 114pp Lister on request
2 322/1063 FR1-FR6 Instructions & Parts List, 120pp Lister on request
1 352 LD/SL Instructions & Parts List, 135pp Lister yes
1 352/164 LD/SL Instructions & Parts List, 130pp Lister on request
1 352/361 LD/SL Instructions & Parts List, 104pp Lister on request
1 352/561 LD/SL Instructions & Parts List, 104pp Lister on request
1 352/865 LD/SL Instructions & spare parts book Lister on request
1 352/956 LD1 Instructios & Parts List, 43pp Lister on request
1 442 SL genset Instructions & Parts, 15pp Lister yes
1 582/566 HA/HB 2,3 Instructions & Parts List, 105pp Lister on request
1 582/864 HA/HB 2,3 Instructions & Parts List, 105pp Lister on request
1 582/1271 HA/HB 2,3 Instructions & Parts List, 117pp Lister on request
1 583/167 VA 6/1 8/1 12/2 16/2 Diesel Generating Plant Lister on request
1 584/367 6/1 8/1 12/2 16/2 Diesel Generating Plant Lister on request
1 585/267 VA 6/1 8/1 12/2 16/2 AC auto Generating Plant Lister on request
1 680/1264 HA2 Start-O-Matic Generating Set Lister on request
1 689/166 VA Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
1 776/661 HA/HB 4,6 Instructions & Parts List, 76pp Lister on request
1 776/766 HA/HB 4&6, HS 6 Instructions & Parts List, 93pp Lister on request
1 1006/765 HW Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
1 1028/367 LR/SR Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
1 1028/767 LR/SR Instructions & Parts List, 144pp Lister on request
2 1028/969 LR/SR Instruction Book, 48pp Lister on request
3 1028/PL LR/SR parts Parts List, 143pp Lister yes
1 1028/566 LR/SR Instructions & Parts List Lister on request
1 1029PL LRM SRM parts Parts List, 120pp Lister on request
2 1147/767 LP1 Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
1 1326/569 MEU Instructions & spare parts book, Lister on request
Later PARTS books
Quantity Book# Model/s description Publisher E - Version
1 340992 Petter BA parts book L/P
1 GS5300 TS - Nova genset parts book Lister
3 2010 Industrial Engines Industrial engines Operators Handbook Lister
1 027-08152 L, T, H, J Industrial engines Operators Handbook Lister
3 1443PL(HR) HR2 & 3 HR 2 & 3 parts book Lister
2 027-08054 HR2 & 3 HR 2 & 3 parts book Lister
1 US997PL(HR) HR & JA HR & JA supplement parts book Lister
2 1985PL(HL) HL3, 4, 6, T6 HL3, 4, 6, T6 parts book Lister
1 027-08055 HRW2, 3 parts book Lister
1 1441PL(HRW) HRW4/6 HRWS6 parts book Lister
3 1441PL(HR) HR4, 6, & S6 parts book Lister
1 027-08025 HL4, 6 & T6 parts book Lister
2 1819PL LT1, LT2 parts book Lister
1 US999PL(LT) LT RANGE LT range supplementary parts book Lister
1 027-08060 LT1, LV1 & 2 parts book Lister
2 027-08098 AC1 (series 2) parts book Lister
2 027-08100 AD2 parts book Lister
2 027-08099 AD1 parts book Lister
1 027-08089 CS4, 6, & T6 parts book Lister
1 027-08090 CR RANGE parts book Lister
1 1704PL(STW) STW RANGE parts book Lister
3 1705PL(ST) ST RANGE parts book Lister
1 027-08059 ST1, 2, 3 parts book Lister
2 027-08082 TL2 & 3 parts book Lister
1 GS5302/180 TS TL GENERATING SET parts book Lister
3 027-08101 T SERIES parts book Lister
2 027-08081 TS/TR Operators Handbook & Parts Lister
1 LPA2, 3, 4 parts book Lister
1 LPW/S 2, 3, 4 parts book Lister
1 P027-08050 STW2 & 3 Master Parts Manual Lister
1 027-08030 TS/TR Master Parts Manual Lister
1 997PL-HRG HR2G, HR3G parts book Lister
Later Workshop Manuals
Quantity Book# Model/s description Publisher E - Version
1 997HRG HR2G, HR3G Operators & Maintenance manual Lister
1 Petter PH, PJ Master Workshop Manual L/P
1 027-08649 all Lister Diesel Engine Theory Lister
1 027-08685 all Lister Guide to Major Component Parts Lister
1 027-08690 all Lister Genuine Parts Guide Lister
1 027-08632 A, L, PH, T, HR, HL, C Lister Technical Handbook Lister
3 2004 HR-W, 4, 6, S6, HL3, 4, 6 T6 H Range Workshop Manual Lister
2 2005 JA, JW J Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 2007 TL2 & 3 TL Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 2000 LT1 & 2 LT Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 2720 CS4, CS6, CST6 Workshop Manual Lister
1 CR3, CRH3, CRT4 Workshop Manual Lister
1 2004s HL Workshop Manual Supplement Lister
1 393093 PH1, 2, PH1W, PH2W PH Range Workshop Manual Lister
2 027-08218 LV1, LV2 Workshop Manual Supplement Lister
1 027-08247 Alpha Series Technical Sales Information Lister
2 027-08240 LPA, LPW/S Workshop Manual Lister
1 PJ Petter PJ Range Workshop Manual L/P
1 027-08243 CR, CS C Range Technical Data Lister
1 RL106 Rootes/Lister Rootes/Lister Workshop Manual Lister
1 RL103 Rootes/Lister Rootes/Lister Parts List Lister
2 360648 P600 2 - 3 Petter Operators Handbook Lister
2 027-08208 HR, HRW H Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 2001 ST, STW ST Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 027-08205 ST, STW ST Range Workshop Manual Lister
1 Alpha Series Alpha Strip and Rebuild Procedure Lister
1 027-08221 TS, TR, TX T Series Workshop Manual Lister
1 SR ST Lister S Series Closer Look Lister
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hi,
would be interested in a few of these manuals how do we go about it?
thanks,
jack
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Documents currently in-print can be purchased at Lister retail. Out-of-print volumes can be purchased at an average $20-$25, or these can be scanned to pdf files about $10 per, or reprinted into booklet form $15-$20. The pricing is intended to cover only the costs for the service paper/reproduction/digital storage, not to generate revenue based on the document content. Intent here is to keep a comprehensive library of service information accessible for the old Lister stuff, especially obsolete machines. I have found the time to get this stuff put up on the web-site so thought this forum an appropriate place to offer them. If you have any documents not in the list, I would be interested in trading to fill in the gaps.
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Jack,
I have a good selection of Lister and Petter manuals in my collection. Let me know what engine you are interested in and I will email you the thing for free.
Emerald
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i'm looking for the workshop manual for the LT1 and any info on ST1 based gen sets. Have bought an LT1 on ebay with no compression.fingers crossed ;D email mrmagu@utvinternet.com many thanks.
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Ok, I have the parts and operator manual for that. I will send it along to you.
Emerald
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got it! thanks very much:)
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Hi Emerald,
You wouldn't happen to have a workshop/repair manual for an ST2, by any chance? I do not exactly know the year of built, or anything alse for that matter except that it is a 2 cylinder ???. But the serial is 131785ST2. RPM and HP also not known.
Any info you have would be welcome in my attempt to get this engine running again. Can you possibly mail it to lister@rochemont.nl
Thanks very much
James
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Hello,
From your serial # your machine was built in 1963. The full specs for the ST series are readily available, I can email some pages if you like. Same goes for the manuals.
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Excuse me guys, this relates specifically to a GTC 6-1 lister "clone", (current Indian production, TRB type, external oil pump, dip-splash oiled, CS valve operational). I've got one that's got less than 8 hours on it and it has an intermittent squallerin' noise it its guts. The noise tends toward becoming continuous (getting worse). My judgement is that this is a rod bearing that's too tight (I don't see what else could make this squallerin' noise). So, I opened 'er up and there seems to be no diametrical movement at the rod, slight side movement, but nothing up n down. (It's a shimmed rod cap) Anyway, since y'all have got some Lister books I wonder what's the rod-to-journal clearance recommended in a genuine Lister 6-1? I can fake this - and make the clearance .003" (that's my personal opinion of what it ought to be), but if you guys know, based on your factory books, what the factory said, I'd sure appreciate knowing. If somebody'd email me a few pages related to fitting a shimmed rod that'd be great too. (I'm old and an experienced millwright, I've seen lots of machinery, but asking questions is always a good first step.) Thanks, Phaedrus
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Hi Gary,
Thanks, I have send you an e-mail. Any info about this particualr liser, or other info which can help me further is welcome.
James
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Phaedrus,
I can email the spec for your 6/1 crankshaft journals and bearing clearances from our data book.
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Thanks to you, Dieselman - specifications much appreciated. Phaedrus.
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From the Lister instruction book regarding conrod big end bearings (CS types);
clearance should not exceed .003". So that the two halves of the bearing shall register firmly one against the other, the Big End cap is made to draw up to within .002in. of the top half. This "nip" should be measured with a feeler guage after assembly, and before the Big End nuts are tightened. New Big End Bearings will require a certain amount of hand scraping when being fitted.
From the Lister data book - technical data page 44;
Main journals wear limits: .008"
Rod journals wear limits: .007"
Page 42 in the same manual is difficult for me to read due to age/wear. If anyone has this document and can copy us page 42 that would add some important crankshaft size and machining data.
Hope this helps,
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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This is some additional Big End bearing instruction taken from Lister manuals for the CS 6-1.
Connecting Rod Big End Bearing
These are steel back white metalled shells in the bottom half and lead bronze in the top half and must not be scraped or touched up in any way. The running clearance with the crankpin should not exceed 0.003 in. (0.076 mm.).
When assembling the bearings on the connecting rod it is most important that the backs are scrupulously clean and that there is interference between the bearing and the bore of the connecting rod. This interference, or nip, is measured by placing the bearing in the connecting rod, tightening both bolts to the normal extent, then slackening one bolt only and measuring the corresponding gap in the rod at the parting line. This gap should be between 0.004 in. (0.102 mm.) and 0.006 in. (0.152 mm.).
Ensure the dipper is secure before replacing the connecting rod cap; it is screwed in place and 4 dots punched into the circumference prevent turning. Place a cork over the end of the dipper whenever working in the crankcase to avoid injury to the hands.
Tightening torque for big end nuts is 55 lb. ft. (7.6 kg. m.)
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Thank you very kindly. Phaedrus
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Emerald and anyone else that may be able to help,
I have been trying to locate maintenance schedules for some obsolete Lister engines for a friend of mine. He is using them on his farm as standby generators and would like to follow a routine maintenance schedule to make sure they are ready to perform when needed. They run intermittently, sometimes for a couple of days, but mostly they run for short periods during power outages. I don't know the serial numbers yet but he tells me that they are the following models, HA3, HR3, SR3 and TS3. I think he got them from a government surplus sale.
They are working OK but he hasn't really done any maintenance other than checking the oil every so often. He is concerned that there may be some issues with these engines that require special attention so he wants to set up a schedule of regular maintenance.
I have been able to find the operators manual for the TS3 which has a routine maintenance section, but have had no luck with the others. All he needs is a basic recommended maintenance schedules which would probably be located in the owners manual. Unfortunately he is not "Computerized" and does not have connectivity to the internet. So being the nice guy I am, I volunteered to check it out for him. Little did I know at the time that it would be so difficult to find info on these long serving engines.
Do you have access to these manuals and if not, do you know where they might be available.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Hooty
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I could really do with the manual for an old engine covered in the topic: http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=1795.0
Apparently it's an old LR (or SR), but if you'd be good enough to have a look at the photos at http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/5180338 you probably have more idea than me.
If you could e-mail them to me at "chairman 'at' dhcc.org.uk", I'd be extremely grateful.
Thank you.
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Gary,
Main journals wear limits: .008"
Rod journals wear limits: .007"
At the risk of sounding pedantic, shouldn't there be an extra "0" in those? :D
Cheers,
Brian
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Well,
I am guessing that this figure in the book is referring to oil clearance, not actual wear on the journal. Proper oil clearance is ultimately what determines life of the bearing besides providing clean lubrication at all times.
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Gary -
I looked trhough your selection of manuals.... I did not see the one for my 20/2 indian clone. I have a newer one with TRB's from the factory. Still in all I am loking for a shop style manual. I also bought a 6/1 Metro need one for it also... You take pay pal or what.
Rob
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Rob,
I do not have much collected on the Indian clones but will do some checking. Our new import engines will have manuals with them but the quality remains to be seen. They are still being held-up in India for all of our QC requirements but patience is the least we can offer up to the process. On the 20/2 can you tell me who the assembler and exporter was? At the least, we might be able to get something generic about that engine. Given the lack of an actual manufacturer and the weakness of the supply chain regarding these, it may take some doing.
Best Regards,
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Hi Gary,
Thanks for your help. The manufactor is Lovson. I bought some spare parts from them last month. I spoke to Joanna, he said he would include some shop manual info in my package... nothing like that ever came. I am trying to find out the correct valve clearances & true timeing. I got the engine to run but it has a host of problems. Today I could not even get it to run, I am a bit frustrated. When it was running I was running on one cyl. mostly and was blowing black unburned fuel out the exhaust pipe. I just do not know true facts to work from. My engine did not come with any timing marks on the gears. TDC on the #1 cyl and camshaft touching the intake valve tappet is as close as I can get to timeing the engine.
Your help is most appreciated.
Rob
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Gary -
I got an e-mail from Lovson, they indicated an new alignment procedure for seting up the timing.
I followed their instructions and still am having troubles. I would like to hear from you on this. Were you able to uncover some new information?
Rob
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Rob,
No new information yet, we are still waiting on our latest shipment and I'll let you know what we learn with those materials when they arrive.
Gary
diesel-electric.us
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Gary -
Thanks I really appreciate it. I found a instruction & parts manual for Ashwamegh engines 12,16,20 & 25. I found it last week Memorial day I was trying out alot of the sights again this time I got lucky and Ashwamegh had this on there site. I quickly copied it and printed it. I did not know if it was a fluke or not but at least I have some current data for this engine. Aprox. 45 pages long. some of those indian web sites are not real reliable. Some days you can get on and sometimes not. So unless you get hold of a real shop manual showing torque specs and other things like that I guess this is all I am going to have for a while.
Rob
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Hello, can anyone help me out here? Looking for a workshop manual for an LV2 engine, need to change a head gasket (which I`ve managed to locate parts for) but would like a manual to aid with all other detail. If someone could let me know where I can get one from this would be great.
Many Thanks
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Andrew, we have practically every publication from Lister Petter...
No problem with workshop manual on LV2. Same is true of parts, by the way.
dieselgman gsj@gci.net
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Looking for a parts maintenance manual for a Lister SR3 engine that is in a lifeboat.
Eng. No. is 158SR325MGR
195. HP
BS 649
please email at lweinberg@usshipcorp.com
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I am interested in a LT2 workshop manual, how do I go about this.
Regards Grassie
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email me directly...
gary@dieselgen.com
dieselgman
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Jack,
I have a good selection of Lister and Petter manuals in my collection. Let me know what engine you are interested in and I will email you the thing for free.
Emerald
Hi
Brand new here and only very recently aware of Lister's fine products (learning rapidly). I have a TS3A which is used to drive a pump to irrigate the golf course I work on...but, I have no information about this engine at all. If anyone has any diagrams, operators handbooks etc. I would be very happy to be enlightened...
Thanks in advance...
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Welcome to the forum MountPleasant!
You may email me with any questions or needs regarding your TS... gary@dieselgen.com
:)
dieselgman
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Hi folks,
I am newbie in this forum and just having bought Lister ST2 with start-o-matic inbuilt. Getting the system in some weeks from now and actually looking after some manual concerning that automatic Start-O-Matic. Maybe it might b wise to have manual, which is named here "312/1052 Start-o-matic Instructions & Spare Parts book.
How could I get that manual?
It is really nice to find such sites and start discussion back and worth in various things around old machines. Nice to get into this.
Kari
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You may be able to find some of the manuals online by using search engines and such. If you would like to purchase our services for scanning or reproduction of obsolete manuals, that can also be arranged. We have the Lister/Petter factory library under our roof. gary@dieselgen.com for direct contact.
dieselgman
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Hi i've just joined. im from New Zealand . i have a late fifties HA2 generator set with less than 250 hrs runtime but has been sitting for 20 to thirty years in a building unused the fuel is not good i need to remove injectors and fuel injection pumps. so i need a workshop manual to help with repairs. if someone could help.